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	<title>Hraba Hospitality Consulting &#187; Facebook</title>
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		<title>Facebook &amp; TripAdvisor; an issue for Google or Yelp?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Revelation!  I love it. I don&#8217;t always have stuff hit me, but it hit me today. So I hadn&#8217;t figured out why Tripadvisor&#8217;s Restaurant Reviews had recently, so vigorously, taken off.  For those of us in hospitality who are aware of our brands online, it was hard to miss.  It is vital to stay on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revelation!  I love it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t always have stuff hit me, but it hit me today.</p>
<p>So I hadn&#8217;t figured out why Tripadvisor&#8217;s Restaurant Reviews had recently, so vigorously, taken off.  For those of us in hospitality who are aware of our brands online, it was hard to miss.  It is vital to stay on top of all conversation, reviews, and mentions, and whether through Google Alerts, or a random internet search&#8230; you noticed restaurants began to get reviews on Tripadvisor. It&#8217;s not really a surprise, and it is a completely natural direction for a travel site like TA.  But, where there wasn&#8217;t even an option to review or add restaurants until a couple months ago, the frequency of seeing reviews pop up is gaining momentum. MASSIVE momentum&#8230; and it seemed like it had to be larger than the Tripadvisor user base. I really noticed when some of our restaurants were ending up with as many, if not more, reviews than Yelp. I hadn&#8217;t been able to figure it out, but when I just added one of our newly opened restaurants to the Tripadvisor database, it used *FACEBOOK CONNECT* to populate the information about the restaurant, meaning the database lives both in Tripadvisor, where people can review it natively from that site, as well as inside Facebook as an application called &#8220;Tripadvisor Local Picks&#8221;.</p>
<p>Uh oh Yelp.</p>
<p>Yelpers can be attention seekers, but the platform of Facebook is the mecca of ME ME ME. If there is one thing a Facebooker is going to enjoy doing, it&#8217;s share their opinion &#8211; *ESPECIALLY* to their real live network of people who may be affected (or forewarned) by a review. It is obviously a natural part of networking, community, and connecting.  Oh.. it also vests itself in ego, and the desire to establish equity in social status. Go figure&#8230; but it never hurt, that while recommending a nice romantic restaurant to a friend, an ex fling sees your exciting life.  I am certainly not claiming this to be me, but the fact that studies have been done on <a class="vt-p" href="http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-09/uog-sfp092208.php" target="_blank">detecting narcissism through facebook profiles</a>, it&#8217;s certainly something that exists.  Here is another article that goes a bit deeper into <a class="vt-p" href="http://shrink4men.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/social-media-platforms-narcissists-borderlines-and-histrionics-the-lure-of-blogs-facebook-and-myspace/" target="_blank">social media and ego</a>.</p>
<p>This means that, alongside the Tripadvisor user base populating restaurant reviews, we now have unwitting Facebook users contributing content to that database. You have a 400 million person population casually being redirected to Tripadvisor to help add content.  But this content generation is happening *from within Facebook*. This app makes it so that FB users are not leaving the site.  This reinforces the travel industry understanding that we can no longer create community when competing with communities like Facebook.  If Tripadvisor is learning this, and allowing off-site content generation, what do you think of your small community?  You need to congregate where people already exist, and reach out to them where they are online, not where you wish them to be (cue $100,000 website laden with bulky flash and slow load times).</p>
<p>In the meantime, you may have noticed Facebook searches being populated with hotel listings, and other brand names in wider internet searches. If a 400 million user population gets used to searching brand names and businesses for reviews, and information&#8230; that is the beginning of some powerful commerce. What&#8217;s more, Yelp could quickly become irrelevant under the crushing weight of Facebook&#8217;s population eager to add content for Tripadvisor, whether they know what they are doing or not.  It has been suggested that Facebook users <a class="vt-p" href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_wants_to_be_your_one_true_login.php" target="_blank">don&#8217;t always know what they are doing</a> (warning: hilarity ensues. Yes I know I have posted that a couple times.  It is too funny).</p>
<p>The way these two are dancing, I could see a marriage in the future. I think they want to date for a bit, but they might become a bit more popular than some of the other options out there. I am not saying Facebook could acquire Tripadvisor, but I am wondering what Google is going to do now that Yelp is off the table, or if that is something that might be revisited? Facebook and Tripadvisor paired could become a brutal force against Google&#8217;s plans, not to mention OTA&#8217;s like Expedia.  As for Yelp&#8230; they might not even see it coming.  Opentable reviews have already legitimized the review process in a way that Yelp has not been capable of.  Reviewing for friends, family, and network in a Facebook model creates more legitimacy still.</p>
<p>As always, I might be missing something. I know FB Connect works with Yelp in some ways, but I don&#8217;t think you can generate content from within a Facebook app?  There is so much to consider, I might be off.  But it&#8217;s always fun to watch this stuff develop. As always I promise to keep you posted. =)</p>
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		<title>Hidden Streams on Facebook Pages &amp; Profiles, Over-Sharing, and Attention Curation as Equity.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 01:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all know that Facebook is buggy, and for some businesses and neophytes, figuring out all of the settings and controls must be like wading through syrup.

There is one simple fact, and it's that the way you want consumers to use Facebook is *not* the way that Facebook users are using it. Yet.

The way some people post on their Facebook Hotel Page, it's tantamount to pounding on your guest's door all hours of the day with little bits of information.  It's overwhelming, and it is off-putting.

The network that is supposed to connect everyone in the world is doing more to create a completely "tromp l'oeil" experience in regards to social media - it looks more like a network than it really is.

It's time to rethink your eagerness versus effectiveness on Facebook Pages.  Of course, as I write this... all I can do is wonder about Facebook's effectiveness, overall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Twitter and user generated review sites seem to  have a lot more ROI, interaction, and traction than Facebook &#8212; which is only unfortunate because it seems they get less attention than Facebook.  Unlucky FB users, on the other hand, are stuck in the loop of hating Facebook, while being completely incapable of escaping it. People are already asking if <a href="Facebook actually has a monopoly" target="_blank">Facebook actually has a monopoly</a>, and whether it should be managed as a utility.  I don&#8217;t like that conversation, because it&#8217;s like we are giving up on the obvious fact &#8211; there could be something better.  Until then, we need to stay on top of this poorly conceived, and inherently damaged, network.</p>
<p>There is a big discussion going on about the equity of  attention  in social media, and that curating attention is more  important than  posting information.  Curation is a fine line, and studies have shown  that <a href="curation works better through less posting of more pertinent info" target="_blank">curation  works better through less posting of more pertinent  info</a>, than more  posting of one-off links, stories, etc.  Social  Media is becoming quite good at capturing attention (think contests, PR stunts, promos, or other gimmicks), but maintenance of these relationships is becoming more important, difficult, and confounding.   If you look  at <a href="http://www.groupon.com/san-francisco/" target="_blank">Groupon</a>, <a href="http://homerun.com/san-francisco" target="_blank">Homerun</a>, and other coupon services (like San  Francisco&#8217;s SF  Gate deals that just started) &#8211; it isn&#8217;t hard to build a  network so much as keeping that network interacting, which is the real challenge.  These coupon services are ideal examples: People will sign up for a specific offer (relevant to their interests), then react like the rest of the email offers (which they opted-in to) are part of their &#8220;daily spam regimen&#8221; (delete, delete, delete).</p>
<p>It is important to step out of your world as the business using social media to reach guests, and think how users of social media would like to be reached.</p>
<p>So&#8230; Facebook Pages, over-posting, and hiding streams.</p>
<p>We need to address this issue about how people use Facebook, versus how businesses wish people would use Facebook.  There is a fast growing problem that fledgling social media enthusiasts &amp; page administrators are not aware of; although, they are encountering it daily in their happy-go-lucky power posting of relevant information for their hotels.</p>
<p><em><strong>There are less eyes on your Facebook page than you realize, and you are losing more all the time.</strong></em></p>
<p>It is a universal gripe&#8230;. even though no one truly  enjoys  Facebook, we need to be there as a business simply because  that&#8217;s where  potential guests are located, and that&#8217;s where we can perk  up our ears  to listen for mentions about our brand, and grow when we  encounter  advice or commentary.  Firm ROI is secondary to our  experimental  presences on Facebook profiles and pages.  Some <em>are, </em>in fact<em>, </em>successful in driving  incremental  revenue to outlets, some achieve positive brand building,  some act as help-all concierges, some operate as ombudsmen, and still  others have zero idea what they are doing or why they are there.  But businesses <strong>know</strong> they need to be available to their potential clients, even without a mitigated plan.  I think this is where a slight disconnect occurs for the business (and I have a whole post about this coming up):  People think it is about the business using social media (YAY! We&#8217;re HERE!), but it&#8217;s more about the availability of the business for the consumer.  More precisely, it&#8217;s about being available, but not being intrusive.  The way some people post on their Facebook Hotel Page, it&#8217;s tantamount to pounding on your guest&#8217;s door all hours of the day with little bits of information.  It&#8217;s overwhelming, and it is off-putting.</p>
<p>There is one simple fact, and it&#8217;s that the way  you want  consumers to use Facebook is *not* the way that Facebook users  are using  it. Yet.</p>
<p>We all know that Facebook is buggy, and for some businesses and neophytes, figuring out all of the settings and controls must be like wading through syrup.  For business&#8217; savvy enough to realize you need to reach your audience where that audience chooses to congregate (chat rooms, groups, Twitter, etc), it isn&#8217;t made any easier by Facebook, and their lack of interactivity or ability to create real commerce with people.  Connections happen, and they are wonderful to see develop, but people are still reticent to have any real interaction  with  &#8220;business-as-commerce&#8221; versus &#8220;business-as-brand&#8221;, which is obvious in  Facebook&#8217;s  positioning with the ease of &#8220;liking&#8221;.   The throwaway simplicity of &#8220;liking&#8221; a brand at this point is meant to identify user profiles for targeted ad marketing, and not to promote any real deep interaction with the brand page itself.  Meaning, people are quite ready to &#8220;wear&#8221; a Facebook page brand as they would Gucci sunglasses or Prada bag, but they are not ready to transact with the brands themselves.  A  lot of feedback from Facebook users is that business page posts still have the &#8220;feel&#8221; of being  &#8220;spammy&#8221;.  With that in mind, we are already fighting an uphill battle in seeking out ways to connect with Facebook users that are fans of our specific brands.  This becomes precarious, however, because many businesses over-post pics and info in an eager and noble attempt to share their services/products.  This can actually drive people away.</p>
<p>Of course, the logical way a social network would remedy this is to have the brand advocate user &#8220;unfriend&#8221; or &#8220;defan&#8221; a page.  That way, a business page could use data exhaust and user actions to help learn in real time about what they do well, or what they might be doing wrong.  This works quite well on Twitter, and their are even Apps built on the API that allow users to find out precisely what they did that lost, or gained, followers.</p>
<p>But leave it to Facebook, a company obviously more concerned with user-experience less than the monetary value of those previous &#8220;likes&#8221;, to create the ability to &#8220;hide streams&#8221;.  It isn&#8217;t Facebook&#8217;s concern that a page isn&#8217;t curating attention, so much that the user enjoys a brand.  To Facebook, liking the brand is more important than telling the brand they are interacting poorly.  Once a Facebook user has chosen to &#8220;LIKE&#8221; a page, they will do almost anything to maintain that superficial connection for ad-model demographic targeting reasons.</p>
<p>Leave it to Facebook&#8217;s closed, corrupted environment to allow disingenuous networks; instead of Facebook creating meaningful networks of truly interactive partners, they have allowed users to hide streams, so you can be part of a network without really interacting with it. For those that are completely unaware,  the option exists within  Facebook to &#8220;hide&#8221; a stream, be it a page, an  app, or person.  This is  wonderful if you are sick of Foursquare check  ins or Mafia Wars updates  from friends, but it violates a vital aspect  of social media&#8217;s earnest  and transparent attempt at communication, and  interactivity.  When a  &#8220;stream&#8221; becomes overactive (constant updates,  possibly via RSS or blog  feed), or hyperactive (admin posting multiple  links rapid fire,  attempting to batch process relevant content for the  hotel)&#8230;. users  are hiding your stream.</p>
<p>This is a problem &#8211; not just for businesses, but for Facebook, as well.  Facebook is creating vast, HUGE false networks, or at least connections without interaction.  I don&#8217;t mean to be glib &#8211; but doesn&#8217;t it strike you as worrisome that a vast community of people isn&#8217;t really that much of a community at all?  I know it&#8217;s a vague concept, but how much trust will you stake in a network based off of false pretenses? The network that is supposed to connect everyone in the world is doing more to create a completely &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompe-l%27%C5%93il" target="_blank">tromp l&#8217;oeil</a>&#8221; experience in regards to social media &#8211; it looks more like a network than it really is.  In the simplest terms, this is going to come back to bite Facebook big time, and they will have to make some decisions about hidden streams in the future.</p>
<p>The entire aspect of being able to be friends with people, or  like a page, with the ability to &#8220;hide&#8221; their stream is disastrous on  the effect of real networking, communication, and building potential  commerce from within Facebook.  When your stream is  hidden, you have no idea that it has happened.  When a Facebook user  hides your posts, they still  &#8220;like&#8221; your brand, and are associated with  it&#8230;.. *WITHOUT EVER SEEING YOUR CONTENT*.  You disappear from their  eyes, and you now have &#8220;phantom fans&#8221; who don&#8217;t interact with you.  Of  course, Facebook made &#8220;liking&#8221; something inordinately easy to do, a  couple months ago.  But in accomplishing their social graph concept, it  further dismantles meaningful communication and interaction in lieu of passive,  meaningless brand identity meant for ad-marketing, with zero regard to relevant idea  exchange.</p>
<p>So, when users &#8220;hide&#8221; the stream, they still look like fans, but they don&#8217;t receive your posts anymore. Facebook, or the fan, doesn&#8217;t alert you, nor are you informed in any way.  The business, as a result,  has no idea they have been   &#8220;hidden&#8221;, while the Page&#8217;s fan count will remain constant.  It&#8217;s been   happening for a lot of business pages, and it&#8217;s becoming a problem for   people that don&#8217;t understand the interaction people expect from a   business, versus the interaction a business wants (wishes) to have with their   clients.  If a business can&#8217;t learn from their mistakes, how will this experience improve for the people involved? If a user can haphazardly &#8220;like&#8221; at the same time as &#8220;hiding&#8221; those people or pages, is that really a relevant connection?</p>
<p>Your hotel may have 1000 fans, but what if 100 have hidden  you? There has been so little conversation en masse about this &#8220;hiding&#8221;  phenomenon, that I can&#8217;t accurately gauge what percentage of &#8220;like&#8221;-fans  end up hiding pages, but in every day conversation about Facebook, in an  extensive group of acquaintances, it seems to be a very common, and  very popular, activity.  That&#8217;s scary.  If it&#8217;s a commonly known function in Facebook, you could have 30-70% of your audience not listening anymore.  That&#8217;s really scary.</p>
<p>Frankly I find it  markedly cynical, and disingenuous.  If I had any clout, I would ask  Facebook to stop it right now, and not because I don&#8217;t like being able to hide things in my own stream.  I  love not seeing any of those apps populating wall, but it does  make my decisions to &#8220;follow&#8221; and &#8220;like&#8221; pages less meaningful, and less legitimate.  If I <strong><em>couldn&#8217;t </em></strong>hide a feed, would I really  fan a page, if I knew I were meant to legitimately interact and  communicate with that brand?  Would the brands be intelligent enough to  know how to court users, or captivate them enough so as not to drive  them away?</p>
<p>I have had some success with how I manage interaction on  Facebook&#8230; I post a link occasionally, but save most of the meat for a  blog post which includes events, commentary, relevant google alert  posts, comments, info &#8211; and then let that blog post feed into Facebook.  It is a  whole bunch of posts / links in one single post.  That way people can  access and interact with it if they want, at their leisure.  Instead of the links coming across their wall as one post  at a time, they all sit in one place for the guest&#8217;s convenience.  One post with 20 links seems to be received much more  favorably than 20 links posted once at a time.  Remember, this isn&#8217;t about you or your business force marketing or pushing your brand onto Facebook users; this is a place for you to be available to potential guests. Don&#8217;t get carried away.</p>
<p>If you overpost,  you risk becoming irrelevant without having any knowledge or metric from  Facebook to see how you are doing, or what you can do to curate the  attention necessary to strike a balance.  Attention, in this new  &#8220;economy&#8221;, is equity.  And curating the attention is now your sole job.   That&#8217;s interesting &#8211; because in our rush to curate attention, a lot of  us forgot to ask how, precisely, to do that.  In an eager rush to share  exciting news about your hotel, you may be losing eyes without having  any say in the matter.  The only real option is to patiently fence sit, and be a  skeptic.</p>
<p>My thought is to be patient, and ride out this precarious situation.  For the time being, Facebook users are hesitant to interact with businesses; when  it becomes more acceptable, *then* get more interactive with your fans regarding products, selling, etc.   For now, we want to curate, and maintain, this  attention.  The best way to do it is by being calculating, and to some extent&#8230; quiet.  At least make sure your formula = less posts + better content.</p>
<p>I, unfortunately, don&#8217;t have any answers.  It&#8217;s simply something that has been on my mind, and it&#8217;s not a conversation people are having on the implementation level of social media.  There are the tech bloggers yammering about equity, curation, &amp; attention, but businesses have a way to go before they understand this aspect of Facebook.</p>
<p>This may change&#8230;. FB may cement itself   and people will eventually get used to it as a vast &amp; interactive portal, or it could fall apart under poor management   and lack of acumen in development of the business pages side of the site.  Most Facebook users are still stuck in the concept of a private dialogue   between close friends, where Twitter has evolved into a more interactive real world community.  It is sorely obvious that Pages&#8230;. are&#8230;. yet&#8230;. another&#8230;. slapped together&#8230;. on top of old architecture&#8230;. idea&#8230;. which Facebook threw together because they were worried about losing brands to Twitter&#8217;s opt-in propensity for real commerce.  Pages weren&#8217;t thought out in any real detail, and as these problems begin to mount, FB will need to make some serious choices about how to fix their site.</p>
<p>Until then&#8230;.</p>
<p>This specific issue is why I organize most of  our relevant links into a blog that lists all the information, pics,  stories, etc.  Other than that, I reply to people&#8217;s comments and responses on the page. I post natively whenever possible, for reasons which I will address in a subsequent blog post.</p>
<p>In the end, this is less about Facebook, and more about you and your business page.  We are a captive audience to Facebook&#8217;s shortcomings, and it is a necessary evil for the time being.  In thinking about how you use Facebook Pages for business, you may want to consider the above; especially if you are one of the Pages that continues with a rapid-fire, staccato-like posting of brand mentions, deals, articles, press releases, etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to rethink your eagerness versus effectiveness on Facebook Pages.  Of course, as I write this&#8230; all I can do is wonder about Facebook&#8217;s effectiveness, overall.</p>
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		<title>#SMTravel Conference Mashup &#8211; Hospitality/Travel/Tourism &amp; The Current State of Social Media</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I imagine this is one of the first mash ups of a live-twittered conference?  If not the first, one of the only ones because this was massively, overly, insanely, time-consuming.  I do think what came of it was worthwhile, and I hope this sort of serves as a testament to all we spoke about and considered during Eye for Travel SM SF 2010.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: small;">I imagine this is one of the first mash ups of a live-twittered conference?  If not the first, one of the only ones because this was massively, overly, insanely, time-consuming.  I do think what came of it was worthwhile, and I hope this sort of serves as a testament to all we spoke about and considered during <a href="http://events.eyefortravel.com/social-media/" target="_blank">Eye for Travel SM SF 2010</a>.  First thing: I am not going to list contributor names here &#8211; I assume this is mostly for those who attended, and we know who we are.  However, Susan Black was going to compile a list of everyone involved in the conference for further networking, and think we might be able to do that here?  Please comment and leave your info for people to connect with&#8230;. twitter, buzz, and anything else you wish to share about the conference. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The below words are basically a mashup of every single tweet (processed &amp; filtered) from the #smtravel conference (blended with my commentary in the parentheses).   I arranged the information best I could, however *completely* subjective said arrangement is.  I hope it makes some form of sense &#8211; or at least you can potentially peer into the chasm that is my logic.  At the least I hope I didn&#8217;t misquote or misrepresent anyone.  Speaking of transparency &#8211; I left some fairly meaty and helpful implementation/action ideas at the end that were not necessarily even part of the conference&#8230; I figure if you can find them and actually read that far down, well.. you deserve them. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I will go out on a limb saying that 100% of the data is accurate, because I basically copy and pasted from the tweet stream.  I am sad to say the nature of making the &#8220;tweety casserole&#8221; of our conference helped it to lose much in the reference &amp; citations arena, but if you need to see the authority and professionalism of those involved, please refer to <a href="http://events.eyefortravel.com/social-media/speakers.asp" target="_blank">list of speakers at the conference</a>.  For those that don&#8217;t know me &#8211; I am a big skeptic, and vigilant about data and non skewed statistics, as well as generally skeptical about enthusiastic marketing. If anyone would like to challenge any of the information or data below, please do!  I am always up for conversation and learning&#8230;. and if incorrect data was given out at this conference I assume we would all like to know (this is highly unlikely)!  So let&#8217;s have at it &#8211;  <a href="http://events.eyefortravel.com/social-media/" target="_blank">Eye For Travel&#8217;s Social Media Conference #smtravel 2010</a>!  (Boy I hope this makes sense)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">My attempt at organizing the concepts throughout the conference:<br />
</span></p>
<ol>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media (general)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Facebook</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Geolocation / Mobile / Augmented Reality<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">ROI</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">User Generated Reviews / Content</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Takeaway / Important Thoughts<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Action / Implementation</span></li>
</ol>
<p>You will note a lot of information on Geolocation/Mobile &amp; User Generated Reviews/Content.  I think that&#8217;s because there is real data, opportunity, and engagement in those areas.  The other areas are more guesswork and hoping.  Twitter provides ROI, to be sure&#8230; but I think we should focus on what provides results, vs. what we like to think *may* work.  In that, I personally suggest you alot some of your Facebook time to understanding and interacting with Geolocation, as well as becoming more involved in the review sites.</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="font-size: large;">I) Social Media</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats</span></span>:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">83% of adults use social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">70% of participants in Social Media are spectators (lurkers &#8211; we know you are out there eating our posts)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">18% of US online leisure travelers do not have a destination in mind when they start their trip planning</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">For every 1/2 sec improvement in landing page download speed, you can increase page views 1-3% (I know.. this is SEOweb design. Sue me)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">58% of travelers use Facebook monthly, 40% use YouTube, 32% to Wikipedia, but 1 in 4 don&#8217;t visit any social media sites (this is in tune with understanding traditional marketing vital, still important, and should be integrated and aware of SM plan)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Email marketing still important but not as effective as it used to be. (I don&#8217;t think I need a stat for that, but 1) it still seems to be effective for some people &amp; 2) it&#8217;s amazing how others simply won&#8217;t let it go when it is no longer effective. It used to be a cure all salve to some marketers)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consumers follow and fan brands on FB and Twitter to learn about discounts (32%). Learn about new products (19%)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">35 Million LinkedIn updates/week, 600 tweets per second, 5 billion pieces of facebook content a week</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">An angry customer can lose you more customers than a happy customer can bring you new ones</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social networking is the new &#8220;morning coffee&#8221; &#8211; 4 in 10 people wake up to their social circles</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">4 in 10 people recommend products on social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">eMarketer reports 81% of marketers say social media significantly extends their e-mail to new markets</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary/Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You can choose not to participate in social media conversation but&#8230;.. that is *probably* not a good thing.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Most social media /generated content is crap.  (This reminded me of a very relevant talk by Google CEO Schmidt, and the resulting piece <a href="http://ow.ly/1qqLb" target="_blank">The Cesspool We Call The Internet</a>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is about relinquishing control</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media/user generated content is the new brochure, and you have no say in how that brochure is made or what it looks like (I like the sentiment but mildly disagree&#8230; I think you be accountable of everything in your control and offer a worthwhile product and the brochure will be to your liking).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Transparency is not for the faint of heart, and it may not work for everyone.  When people get an update, they want more on a regular basis.  (IMHO, It doesn&#8217;t just happen, you have to fight culture of secrecy that most business cultivates).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Top 5 trends in Web 2.0 &#8211; </span><span style="font-size: small;">1) Semantic Web 2) SMO (social media optimization) 3) SGO (social graph optimization) 4) Affinity Graph (feel free to elaborate on this one) 5) HyperLocal</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It is about the quality, not quantity, of followers. 500 committed followers is worth 10,000 non brand interested ones (what sort of followers do contests breed?)<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Soc Media is a communication TOOL &#8211; not a PLATFORM &#8211; &#8220;do you ask for ROI on your telephone?&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media is not a campaign, it&#8217;s a commitment.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">How do you measure the value of a relationship? Lifetime value = more than the sum of transactions.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s amplified word of mouth, right? It&#8217;s been happening for years. It&#8217;s about creating community again &#8211; SM just a new channel for old-fashioned business sense.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media let&#8217;s your customers do the talking for you.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media shares elements w/journalism: Who, what, where, why, how. Formula for getting the full story on a subject.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">World has moved form 6 degrees of separation to 2 thanks to social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Conversation about your brand will happen without you being aware or taking part&#8230;. you might as well listen.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Whoever earns trust, wins</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">SOCIAL MEDIA DOES NOT EQUAL DIGITAL MARKETING &#8211; Social Media is 2 way communication (interactivity, conversation, dynamic growth), marketing is one way communication (forced/push marketing, print, billboards)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Good social media is about the 4 E&#8217;s: Educate, Excite, Engage and Evangelize.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Monitor, Engage, Respond.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Have a clear plan &#8211; where do you fit and how can you add value to your guests and social media. But you have to be prepared to manage the conversation.  It&#8217;s not a campaign, it&#8217;s a commitment.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Bake social media DNA into everyone in the organization</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You wouldn&#8217;t put someone behind the front desk without training. Don&#8217;t put someone in social media without training</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Guest services should respond to social media just like email or phone calls.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Real time recovery is vital to hospitality&#8217;s use of &amp; engagement w/social media &#8211; the internet is fast and speed is key.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s not about you the brand, it&#8217;s about them &#8211; about being available &amp; listening</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Non participation is akin to ignoring customers &#8211; a lost opportunity to engage, learn and make amends.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social should live across departments like PR, cust svc, marketing, etc. It becomes &#8220;something everyone does&#8221; like email.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You can become pen pals with some of your customers thru social media. good way to build relationships, brand ambassadors (time consuming)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Using persona&#8217;s to identify your average customers is useful &#8211; but be real, be earnest, be transparent, and have fun.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Utilize effective management to maintain productivity, instead of limiting massively effective tools for business (social media being banned in the workplace)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media can be a very powerful recruiting tool</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Use analytics &amp; monitoring tools: Omniture, Cision, ReviewAnalyst, eBuzz, Revinate, Radian6</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media should be fun with the appropriate tone of conversation.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Manage Social Media both from corporate and property level &#8211; &#8220;Speak in the tone of the medium&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Blogs bring value to SEO efforts</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Best ideas are often driven from the bottom up. Always listen to your front line people!</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Experimentation is the key to social media success. Fail cheap, fail fast.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is not free. Someone has to own, monitor, track, analyze etc.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The Return is on customer engagement, and ROI may take some time.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="font-size: large;">II. Facebook</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">100 million people now using Facebook mobile app at least once a month (how many are exploring brand pages?).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">56% users check Facebook each day</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">48% of people talk about products on Facebook</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">5 billion posts of content from Facebook per week</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary/Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;Facebook will remain relevant because of its privacy controls&#8221; (- My rant: </span><span style="font-size: small;">I wholeheartedly disagree &#8211; twitter inherently allows the user to opt out of privacy, so the user is quite aware of what they are entering into.  Buzz is similar in this respect.  Conversely, Flickr VIGOROUSLY champions the right of privacy &amp; ownership, so does Tribe.net.  Facebook is constantly altering their architecture so as to potentially generate constant cash flow.  These attempts at creation of revenue wholly disregard the individual users&#8217; privacy &amp; bungles the process constantly, while adding layers to a flawed structure/network that is based off of non-meaningful geo-connections.  Connections, of course, should include *immediate* social circles, but the strongest connections are based off interest, not educational institution &#8211; which pits classmates across broad socioeconomic and political backgrounds into similar social circles.  The preceding line is precisely why Facebook *could* eventually fail. The sky is not falling, and the landscape is changing constantly&#8230; but until Facebook figures this out, their dominance is tenuous.  You cannot create a solid network based off of &#8220;loose interests&#8221;.  Topics/Subject matter drive content creation, and content creation drives social networks.  There can be no meaningful brand interaction in &#8220;loose interest&#8221; networks &#8211; there is limited opportunity to get the network effect started around brands if one user who likes you suggests your brand to a user completely foreign to it&#8217;s necessity or disinterested in it&#8217;s existence).<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">I voice constant concern about Facebook &#8211; is the conversation meaningful? Do they book?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Facebook pages for brands as a &#8220;fad&#8221; was brought up, many disagreed with the concept.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Instead of attempting to create a new social network, connect with an existing one:  FB connect picks up that slack &#8211; interactivity is at leisure of user. Facebook connect allows published content and comments on both your website and Facebook. Helps build engagement in both places.  Travelmuse received a 30% increase in membership from using Facebook Connect. One of the best ideas was this &#8211; &#8220;It&#8217;s easier to buy access to someone else&#8217;s audience than to try to build up your own in order to market to them&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Add a booking widget, customize the tabs and cross-integrate your Social Media channels (connect but do not auto-post &#8211; remain native)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Tag FB pages w/Omniture(Analytic) tags to help measure ROI</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;<a href="http://bit.ly/8YtjE7" target="_blank">5 Essential Apps for Your Business’s Facebook Page</a>&#8221; </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Competitors&#8217;  followers should be at the top of your list of who to find &amp; target</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The Facebook ads that work best to grow a fan base show the user their &#8220;friends&#8221; that are fans, and has a &#8220;Become A Fan button&#8221; on it.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">FB doesn&#8217;t always grab people not coming to your hotel, so it is often better used locally.  FB pages work GREAT for F&amp;B, spa (incremental revenue).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">FB apps can best be seen as complimenting a good FB marketing campaign instead of the center of it</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">(I just started realizing the mapped network of facebook pages creates a tighter community online if you connect &#8211; try to get as many local businesses to highlight your page, and vice versa.  Creates a stronger local presence overall.)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Create &#8220;status questions&#8221; (what are you doing today?) so you can check engagement and how often guests interact/check-in with you.<br />
</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>III) Twitter</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Michael Perhaes with MGM Grand said Twitter is 5x more effective than email for us, &amp; GM Grand&#8217;s Twitter customers have higher ADR than email customers (someone suggested this as savvy, but honestly I would imagine a savvy consumer to find a lower price?)</span></li>
<li>600 tweets  per second</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Commentary/Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If you&#8217;re going to make money, Twitter must become a transactional platform at some point</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter is the new flight attendant call button</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter drives revenue, no doubt about it.  Twitter = ROI, Facebook = idle brand chit chat.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Young kids don&#8217;t trust it, and think it&#8217;s for old people or fame seekers</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter is not a direct marketing platform</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter can be used as an R&amp;D tool</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Uses &#8220;extended&#8221; shelf space by having multiple twitter accounts to represent brand :chef pages, nightclubs, hotel, spa, etc.  Multiple Twitter accounts for multiple audiences</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consider integration with API to expose what is tweeted about your brand (like highlighting reviews, it does suggest letting go of message)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Even if you do have a group of people working on social media, don&#8217;t forget to tweet (fb/blog) with personality &#8211; be a real human voice &amp; be real &#8211; but be transparent, be consistent,</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Separate conversation &#8211; promotions, customer service, etc should be separate Twitter accounts so as not to confuse (this is debatable depending on your brand)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">competitors&#8217;  followers should be at the top of your list</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>IV) Geolocation / Mobile<br />
</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Google estimates 50% of web traffic to come thru mobile devices w/in 5 years (if that doesn&#8217;t blow your mind, re-read it slowly, twice).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">240 million people mobile browsers in 2010, surpassing PCs for first time</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">100 million people now using Facebook mobile app at least once a month</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">According to a recent comScore report, 30.8% of smartphone users accessed social networking sites via their mobile browser in January 2010, up 8.3 points from 22.5% one year ago.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Access to Facebook via mobile browser grew 112% in the past year, while Twitter experienced a 347% jump.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">1 in 3 mobile search queries have local intent</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Mobile Shopping to balloon to $119 Billion by 2015</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Morgans Hotels tagged NYC airport codes on Foursquare during recent blizzards, ran ads, &amp; generated some sales.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Are iPhone apps a &#8220;flavor of the month&#8221;? Or should you just develop a good mobile-optimized Web site?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Geolocation tools like Foursquare mark a significant shift in social-real time interaction &#8211; it&#8217;s valid, useful information<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">hyper local = search + social graph + mobile + your location</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Impressive: Morgans Hotel leverages themed twitter hashtags, 4Sq hotel checkins, Artist Generated Content and analytics tools</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Location-based marketing will be a trend. &#8220;It&#8217;s clearly good.&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Adding hotel rates to Google search results enhances relevancy of listing &#8211; mobile access &amp; booking to skyrocket.  One thing, however, is that rates in Google maps is customer friendly, but maybe not so great for suppliers (link to maps blog post here: http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/03/experiment-to-show-hotel-prices-on.html)</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Best Practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You got me.  I think, again, I defer to Del Ross from ICH &#8211; &#8220;Experimentation is the key to social media success. Fail cheap, fail fast.&#8221;  But frankly, FOCUS ON IT. I would be willing to bet my name that it&#8217;s worth limiting some Facebook time to interacting with Foursquare.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: large;">V) ROI:</span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">What we are after (and trying to define)! *or* &#8220;No clear, easy way to track back social media ROI&#8221; says panel, &#8220;An attribution model has yet to be developed.&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Forrester Research says it is a way to enhance relationships with customers, build brand, help hiring &amp; recruitment, engage in customer service, and helps to build employee morale.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If social media goals are not clearly communicated, how do u know what &#8220;good&#8221; looks like?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If you aren&#8217;t paying attention to conversation about your brand, who is? A different ROI &#8211; Return on Ignorance</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Interesting perspective on generating demand vs conversion in social media. Examples: FB = demand, Yelp = conversion</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Will virtual cash become taxable? (It apparently already is, in some places.)</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is not free. Someone has to own, monitor, track, analyze etc. It is ROCS &#8211; a return on customer satisfaction in early stages</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Measurement involves many different goals, not just sales.  Overall revenue, room nights (Hilton&#8217;s ROI measurement) are just two of them.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Southwest measures SM ROI by: employee satisfaction; ratio of cust compliments to complaints; new signups; conversions.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">VI) User Generated Reviews / Content</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Their data shows that people believe online strangers to friends and family in regards to reviews, user generated content. Expedia</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Travelers search 20 different sites when planning a trip</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">44% of online travelers trust other travelers before commercial advertising</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">32% of Yelp reviews are 5-stars. Only 15% are 1- or 2-stars</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">TripAdvisor has 32 million reviews and gets 16 new contributions every minute.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">TripAdvisor gives less weight to older reviews than newer in terms of ranking</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Content submitted to TripAdvisor at its start 10 years ago is still on the site. There are no plans to remove those.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Management response to critical reviews more important than review content according to Tripadvisor research</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">TripAdvisor says an average traveler reads about 30 reviews</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Only 4% of hotels respond to tripadvisor reviews</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">By being confident, taking ownership, &amp; being enthusiastic, authors have altered or taken bad reviews.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Immediacy of customer feedback on mobile posed to change how companies use social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Online Reviews allow satisfied customers play &#8220;ambassadors&#8221; of your business</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Negative reviews play an important role too, you can&#8217;t please 100% of the people 100% of the time</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">it&#8217;s better to join the conversation than not. Reviews can go from 3 to 5 stars because of this</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Practices</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Be humble, be swift, be specific &#8211; How a hotel property responds to criticism says more about them than the criticism itself</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">By replying to reviews, you humanize the brand &#8211; it&#8217;s less of a place to complain &amp; more about commerce</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Every negative comment is an opportunity to turn around the relationship, and create a long term brand centric consumer.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Bad reviews are exciting to highlight, celebrate, and learn from. Great marketing opportunity. Your reaction is vital.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">responding is never a knee jerk reaction #smtravel they take a LOT of thought, editing attention.  Good impulse control &#8211; required quality for persons chosen to respond to customer comments on social media</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="font-size: large;">VII) Takeaway &amp; Important Thoughts</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Stats/&#8221;Subjective Facts&#8221; <img src='http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   :</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is about relinquishing control</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Google estimates 50% of web traffic to come through mobile devices w/in 5 years</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Investing money in search visibility reduces need to spend money elsewhere.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If anyone says they are a social media expert, they are lying to you.  We are all learning and failing constantly.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">For every 1/2 sec improvement in landing page download speed, you can increase page views 1-3% (content heavy, uber-marketed sites are going bye bye)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">User Generated Content (UGC) is the 21st century&#8217;s word of mouth, and your new brochure &#8211; and you&#8217;re not the one writing it.  your customers are your new copywriters (Jennifer Davies, Expedia)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Virgin will soon have 3 FTE people handling SM. Hilton has 1. Southwest has 6.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The new big three in travel = Brazil, China, and India. New travel up 50% in recent years.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">People under 30 use email only to talk to you if you are over 30, or to talk to brands/companies (suggests the data&#8230; there are exceptions to these facts)<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media matters, but does not replace traditional channels. One in four travelers are not on social networks</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">People want to connect, people want to share: this is what drives social media growth</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Ignoring social media today is like ignoring Google in 1999.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Customers no longer search for news &amp; deals &#8212; they want the deals to find them</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s a conversation, not a broadcast. Be authentic, honest, transparent.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Think about shaping conversation, not controlling it</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">When social media relationships become &#8220;real&#8221; they become private &amp; go offline</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media is most powerful when integrated directly with the product</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Work with your competitors to create a &#8220;trend&#8221; for media coverage</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is not a &#8220;nice to have&#8221; anymore. It now must be a part of an integrated marketing strategy (but it isn&#8217;t just marketing, and it isn&#8217;t just a strategy)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s easier to buy access to someone else&#8217;s audience than to try to build up your own in order to market to them</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consumers want you to engage with them in social media, but only when and where they want to hear from you.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Not sure contests are meaningful so much as getting endless non brand centric people following you for free &#8220;stuff&#8221;. Free stuff followers are not as useful as brand followers.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;Social Media builds employee morale&#8221; was a concept that came up a couple times during the conference.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You don&#8217;t market what you want to say. You market what your customers want to hear.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social operates on a shoestring at most brands &#8211; requires empowerment, education and training to succeed</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Not all social media programs are the same.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s important not to isolate social media for the organization; you need to immerse your business in it. It&#8217;s everyone&#8217;s job&#8230;. it shouldn&#8217;t be just one person.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Make conscious choice for structure &#8211; do not do the easy thing and lump it with PR or Marketing</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Use everything as an opportunity for learning &#8211; Don&#8217;t overreact to customer comments</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Flickr, YouTube good social media for hotels to use for customer engagement. Visual content very importnat for hotels (and has SEO value too)<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Leverage existing social networks and influencers &#8211; go to existing communities instead of wasting time and money building one (Facebook Connect, for example, expanding between brand site and &#8220;vibrant&#8221; community).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consider a dedicated page on your website for social media &#8211; Hard Rock Hotel has one full page dedicated to all social media &amp; review sites.  To shatter industry benchmarks, it&#8217;s essential to bake your SM strategy into your site.  Consider your market &#8211; go to where they are and engage them. Morgans Hotels has whole website section dedicated to music</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Employees can take brand message, localize it, and put their personality behind it. &#8211; participation FUN for employees! Don&#8217;t just throw a bunch of rules at them.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The days of content heavy &amp; marketed website are changing &#8211; they go to review sites and then go to the hotel site for booking.  Consumers don&#8217;t trust pretty, over the top, content laden sites.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">By utilizing closed loop promotions you maintain parity with OTA’s.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">VIII) HHOTELCONSULT&#8217;S Action / Implementation</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">For FB: </span></span></p>
<ul>
<li>Add  booking widget, customize the tabs and cross-integrate your social media channels.</li>
<li>Add  analytics tracking wherever you can to gauge success in raw data form</li>
<li>virtual  gifts/money (First 10 to post get a comp glass of wine, and then after posts say the deal is the free glass has to be for a close friend&#8230; be tricky, have fun, get creative)</li>
<li>Leverage  Facebook Connect when possible.</li>
<li>allow  management to post changes, updates, pics</li>
<li>Birthday  related offer?</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For Twitter</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li>compartmentalize  social media campaign by having smaller departments reach out &#8211;  multiple twitter accounts across all hotels for different reasons &#8211; chef, F&amp;B, sales/banquets, spa (whichever works or would be viable)</li>
<li>add  analytics tracking</li>
<li>integrate/allow  management to post changes, updates, pics</li>
<li>Reached  out to influencers at smaller groups &#8211; 500-700% ROI from inviting  &#8220;influentials&#8221; to a tasting</li>
<li>Twestival?</li>
<li>Birthday  related offers?</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For Geolocation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Research about Gowalla, Twhrrl, others we can possibly interact with?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Create Foursquare Mayoral Advisory Board</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Foursquare deals/offers</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Flash mob or Swarm Badge opportunity?<br />
</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Website</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">local tweet map on site mashing up tweets with brand mentions, associated conversations<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">have one dedicated social media page per hotel</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If you offer discounts, info, events, etc online, make them &#8220;Facebookable&#8221; and &#8220;Twitterable&#8221;</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Misc:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Be creative &#8211; Morgan&#8217;s printed QR codes on cocktail napkins</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">showing OK Go on YouTube $100,000 spend to sponsor video &#8211; less than 3 weeks 10 million views on YouTube. Press exposure</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Fairmont launched dedicated Presidents Club forum on FlyerTalk in July &#8217;09. Now has 412 threads; page views &gt;200,000</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Follow Up Questions (endless, frankly &#8211; and I WANT TO HEAR YOURS! What didn&#8217;t we talk about that you wanted to talk about?):</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">I would like to chat more about HOW, &amp; not WHAT: how to integrate API&#8217;s, how to interact w/mobile-geolocation, how to implement facebook connect, etc. Check out mobile hotel app &#8211; Smart Stay<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Contact morgans about themed hashtags &#8211; Morgans Hotels tagged NYC airport codes on Foursquare during recent blizzards, ran ads, &amp; generated some sales.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Live streaming video &amp; webcam opportunities?<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Is creating a list of your hotel&#8217;s followers on twitter necessary?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">How do you use FB connect for one small hotel?</span></li>
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		<title>Social Media&#8217;s Future, or My Compartmentalization Add-On is nearly ready!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A professional acquaintance and I were communicating today about the odd nature of social media in regards to &#8220;friending&#8221;, and navigating the tightrope that is personal and professional.  Social Media and Online Communication are still very young, and it is still learning to become the &#8220;metaverse&#8221; Stephenson conjectured, or at least fantastical replication of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A professional acquaintance and I were communicating today about the odd nature of social media in regards to &#8220;friending&#8221;, and navigating the tightrope that is personal and professional.  Social Media and Online Communication are still very young, and it is still learning to become the &#8220;metaverse&#8221; Stephenson conjectured, or at least fantastical replication of the physical world.  As it starts to more accurately and efficiently replicate tangible existence, we will see a new vision of a social platform &#8211; something that is capable of being augmented, and adaptable enough for the most diverse of us. For now, we have the frustrating complexity of navigating our professional selves, and awkwardly surrendering our personal lives in lieu of building a professional network.</p>
<p>The question she asked was &#8220;How do you decide who to friend when someone finds your profile off of the page you administer?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the million dollar question.  The online world is slowly revealing itself to be a <span id="more-828"></span>simulacrum of the real world&#8230;. whereas MySpace&#8217;s vague and anonymous profiles caused confusion and apprehension, FB verification process through jobs and schools creates a more acceptable legitimacy in regards to the &#8220;realness&#8221; of a person.  If the person tried to build a &#8220;fake&#8221; profile, it would sort of become irrelevant because there were no real world connections to make.  That poses a problem for the more diverse of us.  I note Twitter facilitates the need to compartmentalize interests, hobbies, characters, etc&#8230;. I have multiple twitter accounts &#8211; one for my music and DJ&#8217;ing, one for art and science, one for biz, and so on.  The nature of communication is that we compartmentalize these interests, so we aren&#8217;t talking about the new museum to a hotel person, or the renovation of a hotel to someone who like to listen to music.  It&#8217;s vital &#8211; it&#8217;s who we are, and how we do biz.  At the very least, there needs to be a separation of professional life and work life.</p>
<p>This is where FB really lets me down.  Originally I had two profiles&#8230; my main normal one professionally (networking and managing pages), and a goofy one for all my closer friends, music/art/SF scene friends.  I soon realized it is literally impossible to juggle between the two accounts, let my alt-profile go dormant, and now I am simply an open book on my main profile.  I use it however I wish, post whatever I wish&#8230; all the while accepting professional peers as friends.  If they like my personal stream, that is fine &#8211; if not, they will unfriend.  But I note, for my own mental sanity, that I couldn&#8217;t possibly keep up to speed with trying to maintain two FB profiles, all the FB pages&#8230; and figuring out what interaction happened where.</p>
<p>So I ditched that alternate profile, and it has been incredibly freeing.  1) FB is not like twitter&#8230; it is a closed social network.  What is odd about that is that people don&#8217;t seem to want a closed social network in regards to their friends&#8230; because they will simply call and chat with them, see them at work or dinner, etc.  People want an open network like twitter, for sharing funny stuff, professional networking, etc.  So I note a lot of people on FB have just become friend junkies and will say yes to whoever might want to be their friend, simply to expand the network and ability for meaningful interaction.</p>
<p>I doubt you insulted anyone&#8230; most likely it is another Oregon local just trying to expand their network.</p>
<p>Whatever the case&#8230; this is a widely spoken about&#8230; you are not alone.  I think Twitter &#8220;gets it&#8221;, and Linked In sort of gets it.  There isn&#8217;t that much interaction there, but it is a valuable tool in conjunction with FB, at this point.</p>
<p>However, I think someone is going to soon create a tool/medium that allows you to truly compartmentalize these personna&#8230;. and create alternate profiles, conversations, etc within one network.  The person that figures out how I can post some inappropriately irreverent and sardonic nonsense on one part of my profile, and professional news and tidbits on another, while posting a video or new mix on my other &#8220;side&#8221; &#8211; that person is going to make a lot of money.</p>
<p>Google Wave could be a start to this.  I just realized something&#8230; Facebook would be able to adapt to this, but I am not innovative enough to figure out how Twitter to handle this sort of shift in friend management.  Whatever the case, pardon my afternoon verbosity.  The sun is hitting the office window and for some reason I just caught fire. =)</p>
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		<title>FACEBOOK AD GAFFES? *or* Inconsistent Social Ads Stir the Funnybone</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact is - social media is young, and growing.  This will all get hammered out, and someday there will be parity and the new model will synch up.  Until then, please share the weird, wild, or funny things you see or hear about on social media ads!  Cheers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;</p>
<p>This is a fairly funny, <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/32172315?FORM=ZZNR" target="_parent">interesting article</a> about the complexity of social ads, and how they can exploit any of your proprietary data for their own ends&#8230;. in that you agree it isn&#8217;t proprietary anymore by uploading it to the site.  IE:  Complain all you want, but if you are on a social media site, they own you.  Some try to be <span id="more-788"></span>fairly deferential to the artist&#8217;s rights (Flickr, Tribe, etc), but others like <a href="http://www.yelp.com/unclefishbits" target="_parent">Yelp</a> and <a href="http://www.facebook.com/michaelhraba" target="_parent">Facebook</a> seem to have little concern for their single users, and are wholly concerned with users overall (read: business).</p>
<p>That being said, have you heard about any of these wildly incorrect or funny social ad gaffes?</p>
<p>Here are some from Cheryl Smith&#8217;s <a href="http://www.culturesmithconsulting.com/change-your-facebook-settings-or-else/" target="_parent">original  article</a>:</p>
<p>Husband sees his own wife in a picture for &#8220;hot singles&#8221;.</p>
<p>Karen said: &#8220;Despite having three degrees and no children, I keep getting ads urging &#8216;Moms&#8217; to &#8216;go back to school and earn a degree.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Rachel said, &#8220;none of my friends have come up in dating ads but one of my guy friends &#8211; a 20 something with perfect skin, popped up in an ad for a wrinkle cream&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I saw a Facebook ad that read “Pinecones. In glass. The want is real.” They were advertising just that — pinecones in glass jars. Very odd.&#8221;</p>
<p>[The following, I assume, was for a dating ad?] &#8220;My picture was posted in an ad for my sister, who then posted a comment in her status on FB, and everyone got to share a great laugh &#8211; after a collective: Ewwwww. Cheers!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Best one so far was a picture of our church’s pastor next to an ad asking my wife if she were hot enough to be in his sorority!&#8221;</p>
<p>These are hilarious&#8230; but somewhat frightening.  If you use FB, or most of these sites&#8230;. you should simply consider privacy over.  Don&#8217;t give up on it, but don&#8217;t act shocked.  At least, have a great sense of humour like <a href="http://twitter.com/CherylSmith999" target="_parent">Cheryl</a> did on her original post.  The fact is &#8211; social media is young, and growing.  This will all get hammered out, and someday there will be parity and the new model will synch up.  Until then, please share the weird, wild, or funny things you see or hear about on social media ads!  Cheers!</p>
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		<title>Well done Tripadvisor &#8211; the first step is admitting you have a problem.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again, I get carried away with a response to a blog post.  I am sure this counts as real business right? Newsweek's Budget Travel has a great article about TripAdvisor trying to deal with the long coming revelation that many of their users and reviews are not legitimate.  This is, frankly, a huge blow to the site, and should pose a happy problem in it's early adolescence as they deal with all the changes that come along with growing into adulthood.  Frankly, I am thrilled that this may provoke User Generated Content sites to seek the same verification model other sites have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, I got carried away with a response to a blog post, and decided to expound on it.  I am sure this counts as real business right?</p>
<p>Newsweek&#8217;s Budget Travel has a <a href="http://current.newsweek.com/budgettravel/2009/06/tripadvisor_tries_to_respond_t.html" target="_blank">great article about TripAdvisor</a> trying to deal with the long coming revelation that many of their users and reviews are not legitimate.  This is, frankly, a huge blow to the site, and should pose a happy problem in it&#8217;s early adolescence as they deal with all the changes that come along with growing into adulthood.  Frankly, I am thrilled that this may provoke User Generated Content sites to seek the same verification model other sites have.</p>
<p>At any rate, this is vital to all of us, and it recalls some of my previous post (which I seem to mention once or twice):</p>
<p>You know I am skeptical of social media, whether speaking of <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/27/facebook-for-hotels-what-are-we-trying-to-achieve-so-far-seems-to-be-nothing/" target="_blank">Facebook&#8217;s lack of meaningful interaction</a>, or <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/23/flickr-and-the-nebulous-tos/" target="_blank">Flickr&#8217;s nebulous TOS</a>.  In general, I have had major concerns since my <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/13/why-you-will-never-trust-yelp-ever-again/" target="_blank">yelp research project</a>, and resulting thoughts on <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/14/why-you-might-trust-yelp-again-social-media-ethics-and-the-future-of-yelp/" target="_blank">ethics in social media</a>. I had even mentioned in January that <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/01/09/yelp-lawsuit-settled/" target="_blank">Yelp should consider verification processes</a>.</p>
<p>One scotch fueled evening my jocular side protruded a wee bit and I became a prankster. To be honest it wasn&#8217;t to learn the lesson I did, rather just good fun.  I speak of the Ryan Air Twitter spoof of mine, which got <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/03/10/the-links-to-the-ryan-air-episode/" target="_blank">considerable attention in traditional media</a> (namely because Ryan Air claimed @ryanaironline was their account).  It  helped me realize that there is a grave concern for brands and trademarks, and both <span id="more-739"></span>the businesses &amp; social media sites should have a vested interest in a <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/03/06/lessons-from-ryan-air-online-as-cross-posted-from-my-personal-blog/" target="_blank">verification process of brands</a>.  There is a serious risk of hijacking and damaging people and businesses, with inauthentic people (or dim ones not realizing pranks and social media can go viral) damaging a brands reputation.</p>
<p>Social Media is young.  FB beat out myspace because it is better at replicating and verifying the real world (although it can&#8217;t actually do anything more meaningful than provide a wonderful marketing data gathering opportunity for FB, coupled with a nice phonebook)&#8230; but it was verifying that the person was the *reality* based person, which quickly attracted people to it.  If you aren&#8217;t relevant to any networks, or aren&#8217;t genuine&#8230; you quickly become invisible.</p>
<p>As user generated review sites follow a similar path, these things will stabilize.  It is very young, and still in the myspace period of fake profiles and people&#8230; but as <a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology/2009/06/12/twitter-verifying-celeb-tweets-115875-21435555/" target="_blank">twitter adds verification services</a> &amp; FB starts considering verification due to <a href="http://www.stoel.com/alerts/trademark_June2009.html" target="_blank">trademark infringement issues with it&#8217;s new URL program</a>: , it will be obvious for User Generated Content Sites to authenticate, across the board.  I am not sure if open ID and attaching accounts to mobile phones is the simplest way, but if something doesn&#8217;t happen quick the sites will implode through sacrificing the only thing that makes their business model feasible.  I am sure Tripadvisor has seen the start of accounts closing due to the breach in ethics.</p>
<p>We will wait until services like <a href="http://www.yelp.com" target="_blank">Yelp</a> and <a href="http://www.facebook.com" target="_blank">TripAdvisor</a> grow into the awareness of what they have created.  People sardonically jest &#8220;<a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Serious_Business" target="_blank">the internet is serious business</a>&#8221; when it comes to this sort of stuff.  But it is.  It isn&#8217;t just 2.0.  It&#8217;s a massively powerful tool that completely reorients the consumer model, putting control into the hands of the people, and out of marketing and PR companies, possibly for the first time in capitalism&#8217;s history.  The message can no longer be managed, and PR doesn&#8217;t work the same way anymore.  You are only as strong as the advocates and endorsers that believe in your brand.  Ethics is paramount.</p>
<p>The only way for these sites to continue their validity is by echoing the sentiment of their own taglines: Tripadvisor&#8217;s &#8220;get the truth&#8230; and go&#8221;, or Yelp&#8217;s &#8220;real reviews, real people&#8221;.  If they commit to intelligently policing their own site by being completely transparent, authentic, accountable, and earnest, they should be able to emerge better than before..  They might need to take a huge dip in registered users, as well as delete a lot of existing content.  This open and honest method of dealing with this situation will undoubtedly sacrifice trust in the short term, but it is the only way for a social media site to maintain the trust that they leverage for business.</p>
<p>It will hurt&#8230; but this is an opportunity for them to re-organize into a leaner and more valid site than ever before.  Most people saw this coming.  Let&#8217;s hope it isn&#8217;t something they try to spin away or ignore&#8230; instead of doing what is right and being honest, while doing everything they can to curb the problem.</p>
<p>I admit concern about the idea of having to hire non-revenue generating staff to handle the massive clean up project, and the fact the money simply might not be there to handle it.  However, it is obvious they are quickly responding, like <a href="http://www.elliott.org/blog/does-tripadvisor-hotel-manipulation-scandal-render-the-site-completely-useless/" target="_blank">April Robb from Tripadvisor commenting</a> to Christopher Elliott. I do like the <a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60982-d596760-Reviews-Hotel_Renew-Honolulu_Oahu_Hawaii.html" target="_blank">warnings they put on some hotels</a>, but it could be markedly arbitrary?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll have to see.</p>
<p>Not sure what age social media is at right now, but it is certainly hitting a painful growth spurt.</p>
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		<title>The Story of the In-Room Phone, &amp; the future of on property telephony</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[These conversations about archaic forms of communication will fall to the wayside during the tremendous fervour for hotels' future comm abilities, where we will have to adopt a more pro-active and less wary view of technology, so the hospitality industry can be carried forward by technology and the advent of 2.0 - at the intersection of commerce and the community that is selling your brand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A colleague and I were bemoaning the difficulty with modern customer service, and the fact that so many tech support numbers are no longer offered as toll free unless it is someone like HP or Dell.  Per usual, I fanatically inject my own experiences into the situation, and muse about the long and wild road of in-room phones at hotels&#8230; specifically the way technological innovation and advancement has, constantly, caught our industry unaware to the point that we shoot ourselves in the foot.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t right not to have access to free phone tech for a product, but it is the way modern business is happening.  Telephony has altered greatly (understatement) in the last two decades&#8230;and property level we are still calling them &#8220;PBX&#8221;. What&#8217;s more is that the IT guys at hotels are well versed enough to know just to ignore it.  I have seen one or two try to explain.. &#8220;Well the PBX doesn&#8217;t really exist anymore&#8221;, the GM will point to the operator, and then the IT guy capitulates with a shrug.</p>
<p>We hotels used to gouge consumers for phone calls because they had no choice, and it was a BRILLIANT revenue stream.  Then came calling cards, and hotels started losing lots of revenue&#8230; and per our typical furrowed brow, it took us a couple years to figure out why.  Even dial-up modems for AOL and prodigy services were <span id="more-721"></span>a complexity to us&#8230; which is why we started charging people to call out to 800 numbers.  Of course this garnered more distrust from guests about our call accounting, but it also got the enraged guest at the desk who had left AOL connected for 3 days and owed the hotel $5545 for a 2910 minute phone call to an 800 number.  I had at least 3 of those that I can remember&#8230; and those people were all completely, and totally, hysterical.  Not the funny kind, either.</p>
<p>By the time we admitted to ourselves that the revenue stream was lost and started charging enough simply to cover costs&#8230; hotel guests had already decided to never trust in-room phones ever again.  Calling cards were used almost exclusively, and guests now have cell phones that simply makes in room telephones, for all extensive purposes&#8230; obsolete.  This has been patently obvious in the last 5 years&#8230;. in-room phones are nothing more than an intercom now, which is why telephony solution providers are trying to make them into a marketing gimmick with big LCD colour touch screens, etc. What&#8217;s more is that anyone silly enough to install payphones on property has them regularly taken back out within 3-5 months because it simply isn&#8217;t profitable for the companies to maintain them.</p>
<p>By the way &#8211; that might be my only professional advice in this post, along side the historical ramble&#8230;. stay away from that &#8220;slick&#8221; nonsense.   LCD screen phones are nothing more than an annoyingly bright &amp; pricey business card for in house outlets where guests are already likely to contribute incremental revenue.  These phones are a gimmick, and they are part of the technological in-between period of telephony companies trying to generate need and create a new niche for them while everything swirls up in the air.  These &#8220;hubs&#8221; will become something incredibly powerful, and useful&#8230; but the new tech coupled with cost and lack of dynamic functionality (beyond being flashy) makes them a poor investment for the time being.  For now, think of in-room guest phones as IP &#8220;intercoms&#8221; for your next project, and you will save a lot of money.  Heck&#8230; you may start having guests <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/travel/hotels/2009-05-21-online-room-service-menus_N.htm" target="_blank">order room service online</a> before calling on the room phone&#8230;or they may plan travel without even considering a voice call &#8211; like <a href="http://www.simultravel.com/" target="_blank">GPS enabled hotel booking apps</a>, or basically just making an app to make <a href="http://www.hotelchatter.com/story/2008/10/21/11379/862/hotels/iPhone_Geeks_Must_Check_Into_the_Malibu_Beach_Inn" target="_blank">every department available</a> by PDA as seen at <a href="http://www.hotelchatter.com/story/2008/10/21/21267/259/hotels/iPhone_Hotel_Review_at_Malibu_Beach_Inn" target="_blank">the Malibu Beach Inn.</a> Even Choice Hotels <a href="http://www.choicehotels.com/ires/en-US/html/Mobile" target="_blank">has an incredible mobile app</a> that not only sells their brand, but it enables an entire community of brand endorsers.</p>
<p>So in this panic of the phone industry changing, everyone has been hit&#8230; robots handle call volumes of humans, 800 numbers are incredibly expensive, and customer service has tanked in general because of it.  In 20 years we went from fully staffed calling centers with live operators to a computer voice that handles the volume of 20 employees&#8217; worth of labour.  With cell phones all but destroying traditional landlines, they have also made the 800 number obsolete.  When it is used, it is strictly for high end marketing, because no one else can afford it.  It usually only goes to the departments that generate revenue (SALES) and the guys doing all the real work have the fun of not having one, then fielding complaints from already unhappy consumers that have just been further inconvenienced.</p>
<p>As we continue forward, I think the traditional phone will die, but rise a bit like a Pheonix &#8211; the same thing existing in a different form.  It will not only take on the traditional rolls, but also a hotel intercom, then soon to be an internet hub&#8230; and slowly integrating with other guest room controls and being not unlike the new <a href="http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/vzhub/overview.jsp" target="_blank">Verizon Hub</a>, which demonstrates that you can have a phone that is highly adaptable and functional.  Think of it as the Looney Tune cartoon &#8220;House of the Future&#8221; where panels &amp; buttons on the wall call outside, surf the web, program the house settings, washes, cools, power management, etc.  The only thing is that we are a long way off from that kind of functionality&#8230;. and for now spend as little as possible on both ends.  As for 800 numbers, if the department&#8217;s revenue can&#8217;t cover it without impacting business, it simply isn&#8217;t a wise choice.</p>
<p>In the future, however, someone in your hotel will also have grown up playing around with making apps, and you will have your first person on staff managing the 2.0 of your hotel.  I like to think this would be a salaried position from a truly innovative management company, but I am aware this starts with property level people engaged with the brand that have extra time and know how.  As for the salaried position, we shall see.  I know we are all looking down the road at <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/03/04/the-new-job-description-concierge-20-what-makes-an-excellent-brand-managerhotel-smo/" target="_blank">Concierge 2.o</a>, and few of us might have thought that could be possible. Now with IP, Google Voice, and even browser enabled chat sessions&#8230; there is an exciting future of unending real time communication with brand advocates (returning guests) and potential clients.</p>
<p>These conversations about archaic forms of communication will fall to the wayside during the tremendous fervour for hotels&#8217; future comm abilities, where we will have to adopt a more pro-active and less wary view of technology, so the hospitality industry can be carried forward by technology and the advent of 2.0 &#8211; at the intersection of commerce and the community that is selling your brand.</p>
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		<title>The Biospheric Front Desk Approach</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has this really happened?  Have we found ourselves in the position to have a guest blogger?  Oh my have we.  I wouldn&#8217;t normally do this, but 1) I am always insecure about the pertinence and efficacy of my posts and would love a very, VERY smart man to bolster them, and 2) Property level employees &#8212; no matter how thoughtful, philosophical, and skilled &#8212; rarely have time to sit down and blog.  Therefore, I would love the opportunity to represent some of the finer, more polished minds that are still doing the prop level grind.</p>
<p>So.. I present one Theo McKinney, The Concierge &amp; Guest Service Specialist at Hotel Carlton, a Joie De Vivre property in San Francisco.  In the past couple months, working on the previously mentioned &#8220;Hotels that Help&#8221; (and more to come) charity.  In our conversations, Theo had offered some of the most intelligent, passionate, and competent conversation about hotel management and operations.  I fear it is a conversation I stray from too <span id="more-683"></span>often, and have plans to start a part of the blog focused solely on property level operations.  Until I can muster the time and intelligence, I give you something far more interesting.  I hope you enjoy!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><strong>A Biospheric Approach To The Host/Customer Experience &#8211; By Theo McKinney</strong></em></p>
<p>&#8220;<strong>THE FRONT DESK ‘YES CULTURE&#8217;</strong>&#8220;: &#8211; When asked why they are in the hotel bizz, the most engaged hospitality employee will invariably say &#8220;I like to help people&#8221;. This is what I have sometimes identified as &#8220;The Yes Culture&#8221; of a great Front desk team. Nothing is too much trouble. Sounds great at first; the only drawback is that they will often extend the exact same open-minded courtesies to certain non &#8220;guest-centric&#8221; issues; problematic because there is no one else in any hotel system to pick up slack in this area; from the following, you will see how distractions are rarely welcome in The Sphere.</p>
<p>The only &#8220;given&#8221; in the minds of a hotel guest, is that in most cases, the guest is intentionally choosing one hotel experience over another chain&#8217;s hotel experience. Most chain hotels represent a reliably fixed and known quantity to please their most loyal guests, (i.e. A Holiday Inn in Twin Twiggs Iowa, population 12,033, looks suspiciously identical to the one in Los Angeles). In other words, the experience begins and ends with the chain&#8217;s design process. Nothing more is required, and their targeted guests are fine with that (for now)</p>
<p>A boutique hotel guest, on the other hand, is really looking for a different kind of experience; one that merely begins with a hotel&#8217;s chosen theme and design process which serve as a staging area for something deeper than just a nicer bed/view/TV than they have at home. The very best boutique hotel experience ideally ends with each guest feeling as though they were a part of something unique.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the Biosphere connection?</p>
<p>Hundreds, possibly thousands of science fiction starship scenarios include the necessity of a closed (i.e. protected), self-sustaining environment, where a certain level of purity is essential for survival, yet nothing goes to waste, not even the waste (one organism&#8217;s &#8220;refuse&#8221; becomes another&#8217;s fertilizer) It is the follow-through on the integrity of this &#8220;bubble environment&#8221; that keeps all the good stuff in and filters all the bad stuff out.</p>
<p>So long as the &#8220;sphere of experience&#8221; takes precedence, a thriving interactive hotel will be able to sustain itself indefinitely to the desired benefit of all factors involved within the sphere, leading to a sustainable unique hotel experience. Comparing a given ideal boutique hotel with an ideal bio-system is not really all that spaced-out:</p>
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<li>SOIL &#8211; The Physical Environment -A Hotel&#8217;s physical environment including the physical building, its grounds, and the immediate neighborhood that the hotel&#8217;s guests will likely be experiencing during their stay</li>
<li>AIR &#8211; &#8220;The Intended Vibe&#8221; &#8211; i.e. the culmination of the hotel&#8217;s chosen environmental goals- making sure the environment of a given hotel is being filtered and refreshed on a continuous basis.</li>
<li>TOPOGRAPHY- What does it all actually look like to your guests? Here, it&#8217;s about ALL of the distinctive geological details, both the positives and the negative: are guests experiencing any impassable obstacles? (Consider the meaning of the majesty of beautiful white water rapids set off by a nearby snow-capped mountain range) Its all about the physical interactions that will be present in all guest contact areas, including the condition of the furnishings and area cleanliness, as much as the very demeanor and expertise of the employees hosting them. Are we looking at obstacles which block &#8220;the Vibes&#8221;? Or beneficial presences that reconfirm them?</li>
<li>RELIABLE WATER &#8211; &#8220;The Flow&#8221; -The better a FD staff can maintain a positive flow, the more likely it is that the desired one-on-one partnerships will emerge</li>
<li>FILTERING SYSTEMS &#8211; It follows that the ultimate responsibility for the levels of &#8220;impurities&#8221; allowed to enter the sphere of The Guest Experience, are best analyzed and controlled on this level.</li>
<li>LIFE &#8211; A strictly purists approach to The Sphere is a guarantee that The FD/contact employees will understand their mission. Activities that should not take place at the front desk (example: having a FD host &#8220;sell&#8221; the hotel after a guest has checked in; the guest is already there, so instead of hard-selling, forcefully up-selling, and/or re-selling, there needs to be a concentration on delivering the actually product they have already purchased.</li>
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<p>A fully realized and delivered product, in a reliable, and hermetically sealed, joie-filled environment, is what a great boutique experience is all about.</p>
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		<title>Facebook for Hotels &#8211; What are we trying to achieve?  So far&#8230; seems to be nothing.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay so I am really frustrated.  Well&#8230; that&#8217;s dramatic.  I am more confused, and too busy to gesticulate in the air and ask this question to the windows and fluttering leaves outside my office&#8230;. what in the hell is the point of Facebook for a hotel brand anyway??  I think a lot of people are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay so I am really frustrated.  Well&#8230; that&#8217;s dramatic.  I am more confused, and too busy to gesticulate in the air and ask this question to the windows and fluttering leaves outside my office&#8230;. what in the hell is the point of Facebook for a hotel brand anyway??  I think a lot of people are using the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80-20_rule" target="_parent">Pareto Principle</a> to organize their time in &#8220;doing&#8221; social media, as suggested earlier last week <a href="http://www.hotelmarketingstrategies.com/time-allocation-in-social-media-management/" target="_parent">*here*</a>.  I was going to try and find all the examples I have run into in the last year, but instead offer into evidence <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=80+results+20+effort" target="_parent">exhibit &#8220;B&#8221;</a> &#8211; that time management is a very impacting conversation mentioned over and over because we are so dang busy and REALLY want to figure out what is important, and what isn&#8217;t.  So what&#8217;s important about Facebook?  Frankly, I am starting to lose my enthusiasm, especially since <span id="more-658"></span>the stream change I reference right <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/09/facebook-all-atwitter/" target="_parent">*HERE*</a>.</p>
<p>Whether &#8220;Hotel Pages on Facebook&#8221; work isn&#8217;t a cut and dry question to say the least&#8230;. whether they are useful, or whether they are actually hotels to begin with is where we can start.  For example, if you search &#8220;Hotel&#8221; on Facebook, then filter so that only &#8220;pages&#8221; appear, the first 3 pages of over 500 results does have a hotel or two, but the majority of pages are for a band, or a page devoted to hating said band, or one of 15+ (I stopped count around 13) of Facebook Pages for the wonderful, if not somewhat antiquated, &#8220;HOTEL&#8221; board game.  Sure I enjoyed the game too, as you fair readers are just reminded of how much fun it was when you last played.</p>
<p>But this is no longer kid&#8217;s play.  This is business&#8230; and I want to make sure we are not wasting our time.</p>
<p>Two Important Questions, the latter being more impacting: &#8220;WHAT HOTELS ARE USING THEIR FACEBOOK PAGES THE BEST???&#8221;&#8230; and then the *really* important question&#8230;.&#8221;THOSE HOTELS USING THEIR PAGES THE BEST&#8230; *what* *is* *the* *benefit*?&#8221;</p>
<p>Basically.. I would love to hear the positive, happy Facebook stories about hotels with groups or pages?  I am at a loss for any real examples of how it is &#8220;business&#8221;, or can be used effectively.  Like&#8230; none.  I know we have to be on FB&#8230; there has to be a presence.  But what am I missing guys?  I note this has come up recently, like <a href="http://www.hotelmarketingstrategies.com/facebook-for-hotel-marketing/" target="_parent">*HERE*</a>&#8230; but there hasn&#8217;t been much follow up.</p>
<p>I see people on hotel pages saying &#8220;I love your brand/hotel&#8221;.  I have also seen people upload a picture here or there.  But I *do not* see anything deeply meaningful or anything really happening (IE commerce, business, or jumps to booking engines, etc).  I know that the restaurants and especially lounges seem to like to use it as a place to update events, etc&#8230;. but most of the fans on a page would be previous guests, presumably not locals?  I have always thought hotels should ingratiate itself to the community, but there are only so many events and specials that you can target the community with, as they aren&#8217;t going to always be your strongest base or the people the pay the bills.  For brand image you need them happy, but they aren&#8217;t your guests.  What&#8217;s more, if you do constantly focus on locals&#8230; you are missing out on the bread and butter, which is rooms.  It is complex&#8230; is the page for a local clientele, for potential guests, for past guests that are part of your culture?  All 3? It&#8217;s almost like Hotels focus on the locals not because they *want* to.. but becuase, by default, they *have* to&#8230; as they don&#8217;t know how to reach others.</p>
<p>I for one haven&#8217;t the foggiest how you would get a potential guest to your facebook page, and what&#8217;s much, *MUCH* more important&#8230; is <strong><em>why</em></strong>?  Why would I want to get a guest to a page without much information, meaningful content, or a booking engine?  Isn&#8217;t the potential guest someone we want to end up on our hotel site?  Even the SEO premise is interesting, but if people aren&#8217;t searching or using FB to find brands, what&#8217;s the point of getting them to your page when they can&#8217;t do anything?  What&#8217;s more, if a FB page is basically a one sided twitter or RSS feed of brand info, wouldn&#8217;t you want your potential guest on your branded site instead of a dead-end of non-interactivity?</p>
<p>So what is the page for?  For now I have a couple things:  brand awareness (news, etc), SEO (your link on FB), contact info, (but FB&#8217;ers aren&#8217;t using pages as a yellow page, nor are they using it as a resource), events, specials.   Let&#8217;s look at some hotels and how they successfully use FB:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Paris-France/Hotel-Costes/8082863027?sid=7ba48fb52ab46aface7639b8ccb2689e&amp;ref=search" target="_parent">Hotel Costes</a> &#8211; 25,000 fans, zero wall posts, obviously just a &#8220;front&#8221; or online billboard.  I think this may be the most effective use of a FB page out there.  Just build a nice page, and walk away.  I hate to be cynical, but it might be the simple best page I have seen, albeit a little tongue in cheek.  I will say that &#8220;Hotel Costes&#8221; is also famous in the younger scene for having downtempo lounge DJ&#8217;s playing, and have an associated line of CDs which may be part of its popularity.  Whatever the case, one of the hotel pages with the most fans, and they aren&#8217;t doing anything at all.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Hilton-Hotel/11044361505?v=wall&amp;viewas=1211590808" target="_parent">Hilton</a> &#8211; 21,107 fans, with 8 posts on the wall in the last 14 days.  Those posts are the typical &#8220;Hilton is the best,i love it&#8221;&#8230;  meaning relatively benign, fairly non engaged commentary.  They aren&#8217;t posting anything, not even RSS.  I have seen some hotels pull back from posting, as the change FB made has wall posts injecting into people&#8217;s conversational stream like spam.  Hoteliers are confused how to handle this, and even I have found brand updates annoying as all get out (and I am the type that is meant to be tolerant of them, being my profession and all).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/HOTEL-ALADDIN/47408168448?sid=7ba48fb52ab46aface7639b8ccb2689e&amp;ref=search" target="_parent">Hotel Aladdin</a> &#8211; I love this example, because they are actually interacting with their 10,000+ fans.  You may not speak Spanish, but you can tell they are updating the wall, and people are actually participating.  So what is this meaningful interaction from a hotel doing a good job with their page?  People thumbs up, IE &#8220;Like This&#8221;, by clicking on the feed post and that&#8217;s about it.  Comments are frequent, but I still don&#8217;t see business.  People liking you doesn&#8217;t necessarily translate into &#8220;time well spent&#8221;.  They did have a contest where they gave away 3 rooms, which is a great way to garner attentions and fans&#8230; but does it make a booking down the road?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=72980119827&amp;h=jOIvI&amp;u=rPaN8&amp;ref=mf" target="_parent">St. Julien</a> &#8211; Obviously using the page, as they moderated a question I asked about their page.  They had a Earth Day special that got some attention, and some fans.  However&#8230; they got fans on the pretense of planting trees.  People joined, they announced 70 trees in those new fans honor.  But what now?  That first post since the event is about 20% off in the spa.  They have 216 fans right now.  Any wagers on whether the amount of fans goes up or down in the immediate future?  I *assume* new fans will tire of spa ads in their stream and de-fan pretty quick.  Whatever the case, are they spending time that generates business or justifies time spent?  Exactly *who* fans pages right now?  Who fanned St. Julien for that promo &#8211; people that wanted a tree planted, or people that wanted to know about the hotel?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><a href="http://www.hotelchatter.com/tag/Facebook%20Hotels" target="_parent">HotelChatter </a>mentions some more hotels that have pages, and that are potentially doing interesting things:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Santa-Monica-CA/Whist-at-Viceroy-Santa-Monica/51197891094" target="_parent">Whist at Viceroy</a> Santa Monica with 125 fans is basically sending a dinner offer once a week, and nothing more.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/High-Peaks-Resort/43039921778" target="_parent">High Peaks Resort</a>, frankly, seems to do everything right when it comes to social media.  As much as their stream looks solid, with 300+ fans, I still wonder what sort of commerce or interaction happens&#8230;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;"><a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Jane/43367036562?ref=s" target="_parent">The Jane</a>, with 52 fans, hasn&#8217;t really posted anything *since* the hotel chatter article.  This isn&#8217;t indicative of them doing anything wrong, I simply think it is indicative of no one really knowing how to create meaninful conversation on FB.</p>
<p>I could keep coming up with more pages, but these are simply a couple hotels whose pages have already been chatted about in the social media conversation.  I notice most people aren&#8217;t doing anything, when they do it is usually a contest to garner more fans (to what end I am not sure anyone knows) or a special on wine at dinner , etc.  All this just lends itself to a couple points:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">1) Social Media is about conversation, which is something I see on very few pages.  On FB, it is basically a one way pushing of information.. deals, news articles etc.  If FB had reviews that could be fused into a page, or some &#8220;game&#8221; like <a href="http://www.hyatttravelquiz.com/" target="_parent">Hyatt developing</a> one of those &#8220;what&#8217;s your travel personality&#8221; quizzes, it might create better interaction&#8230; but very few have the time, money, or justification to do anything like that.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">2) Social Media is open, which FB is not &#8211; meaning that most of the time, on Flickr or Twitter you can actually have a chance of interacting with potential clients, while FB only has those that already know of your property, IE locals looking for a good deal on wine at dinner.  How many people is that for?  What percentage of fans will be local, and will actually utilize that deal?  Who is your target on FB?  Why is that your target?  What are you attempting to achieve with FB?</p>
<p>In the end -I think that question sort of zinged even myself&#8230; &#8220;What are you attempting to achieve with FB?&#8221;</p>
<p>I for one don&#8217;t have a clue.  I just know, even worst case scenario, it&#8217;s great to have your link out there in a place with a high page rank.  So that is why I am there, even though why I started was totally different&#8230; it was to regale guests, interact with them, create stories and remember moments&#8230;. but now, I feel relegated to checking it once in awhile, staring blankly, and then moving on.</p>
<p>I think a lot of hotels set up a page, have absolutely *ZERO* idea how to meaningfully interact with potential guests, and resort to offering locals dinner deals in their restaurant, because there isn&#8217;t really a way to reach a prospective client on FB (and don&#8217;t get me started on their advertising program&#8230; because we know that doesn&#8217;t work.  <a href="http://blogs.reseo.com/2009/02/facebook-ads-model-reviewed.html" target="_parent">No conversion tracking</a>, <a href="http://www.hotelmarketingstrategies.com/your-thoughts-on-hotels-using-facebook/" target="_parent">Lack of results</a>, <a href="http://mashable.com/2008/12/15/facebook-advertising-solution/" target="_parent">users not seeking advertising</a>, and the <a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=97787" target="_parent">Social Media Ad Model</a> is broken anyway).  You can only reach people that know about you, and that can act on offers, deals, and last minute specials.  These aren&#8217;t clients that provide a powerful revenue stream to your hotel, and often, as we have seen with dropping rates to garner occupancy&#8230; the people looking for a deal aren&#8217;t really the clients you want anyway.</p>
<p>Are we wasting our time?</p>
<p>I did find some other great pages on FB about hotels&#8230;.Hotel Rwanda, Hotel for Dogs.. and I am reminded people are passive.  They want to watch a trailer, or be told about a brand or product&#8230; but consumers on FB don&#8217;t necessarily want to interact with the brand yet&#8230; nor are many looking to become a vocal endorser and push your hotel page to their friends and network.  Basically, it is just something to click&#8230; and a page is something to ignore until it annoys you and you de-fan.  What&#8217;s more, you can&#8217;t tell consumers about your product if you aren&#8217;t able to reach them within the closed network.  It reminds me of <a href="Facebook must find ways to convince users to seek advertising" target="_parent">Mashable&#8217;s comments</a> that &#8220;Facebook needs to convince users to SEEK advertising.</p>
<p>Very complex stuff.</p>
<p>Cure my cynicism.  Tell me why I am missing the point, the bus, and target?  How has a FB Page saved your hotel brand, and made things better for you?  I want to hear stories now because I am quickly feeling like a page is nothing more than the 80% not actually causing any real impact.  Time to cull, and focus on the effective 20%&#8230;..</p>
<p>Is FB part of that 20% that gives you 80% of results?  Let me know!  Otherwise&#8230; I might be encouraging clients to build the page, and simply move on.</p>
<p>Share your experiences and thoughts!</p>
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		<title>Facebook all a&#8217;twitter *OR* I didn&#8217;t really want ads on my Facebook stream</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brands on Facebook are nothing more than dissonance now.  Whereas before they were meaningless, and the pages were little more than non-functional, limiting, and fairly non-interactive static places&#8230;. &#8230;.now they are annoying, interruptive, and totally dysfunctional.  The new layout for Facebook has turned personal conversations into nothing more than reality TV with advertisements at random [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brands on Facebook are nothing more than dissonance now.  Whereas before they were meaningless, and the pages were little more than non-functional, limiting, and fairly non-interactive static places&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.now they are annoying, interruptive, and totally dysfunctional.  The new layout for Facebook has turned personal conversations into nothing more than reality TV with advertisements at random intervals. Brands and Pages used to be benign, and it was obvious there weren&#8217;t *doing* much of anything.  But now people look at these pages as malicious marketing that is getting in the way of their social network.  The furor I have seen is remarkable, but I hadn&#8217;t experienced it until <span id="more-594"></span> today.</p>
<p>I have three Facebook accounts&#8230; two for work, one for personal.  Because I sorta &#8220;work&#8221; I don&#8217;t get &#8220;personal&#8221; too much&#8230; but I was on there this morning jibber jabbering, catching up, being a voyuer&#8230; and all of a sudden one of my *FAVOURITE BRANDS EVER* pops up with a blurb about an art showing.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t say what it is; but it is sassy, salacious, lurid, and compelling.  So a little blurb pops up into my stream.  Remember&#8230;. I love this brand and what they do.. sort of punk chic stuff.  Maybe I do get personal, and will let you know I don&#8217;t mind salaciousness.  But, we are talking about something that should be compelling to my core.. a brand I have followed for years, enjoyed, interacted with, and whole heartedly endorsed.</p>
<p>I found it annoying&#8230; but brushed it off like a harmless spider on the table.. ignoring it but knowing it may come back.  Then another popped up&#8230; and another.  So what did I do with my favourite brand&#8217;s page?  I immediately unfanned it.  Immediately.  I don&#8217;t want that information in my personal, closed network of friends.  If I want information on the brand, I will search it out&#8230; go to the site&#8230; peruse the conversation.  But I don&#8217;t want it in my feed.  It was just total dissonance, and totally irrelevant.</p>
<p>Facebook&#8230;. you just made a terrible mistake.</p>
<p>I know I know&#8230; all these bloggers like to shoot from the hip and say, &#8220;critical fault&#8221;, &#8220;nail in the coffin&#8221; nonsense&#8230;. but just like most emotive reporting (if you want to call it that), it really is just a storm of hot air brewing in an empty tea kettle.  Okay I know it doesn&#8217;t totally make sense, but you get the idea.</p>
<p>Video didn&#8217;t kill the radio star, and the earlier, initial report of radio being crushed by TV was premature.  They found a symbiotic relationship, and their niche.  FB is an a/v laden TV, while Twitter is more like visual radio.  The analogy is flawed, but they are two things similar that are fundamentally very different&#8230;</p>
<p>Facebook made an error thinking they were like twitter.   And albeit all of *us* (the eyes that hit this are undoubtedly thoughtful &#8211; industry eyes well versed in social media) know that twitter and FB are different&#8230;. FB didn&#8217;t realize that.  I am not sure why, but in wanting an open stream for brands to interact with users, they neglected to see the difference between a closed and open network.  All this immediately before their <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/01/technology/internet/01facebook.html?ref=business" target="_blank">CFO leaves</a>?  Maybe they finally realized that the ad model won&#8217;t help them reach profitability?  Maybe because the ad model is failing, as <a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=97787" target="_blank">Mr. Khan from JP Morgan suggested?</a></p>
<p>They want a page&#8217;s wall to post to user profiles, effectively allowing marketing and more &#8220;business&#8221; to happen on facebook&#8230;. they want a brand&#8217;s wall posts sitting in the middle of a private stream of communication within a closed network?  I hadn&#8217;t really thought about it during the initial changes, but it just seemed odd.</p>
<p>Twitter is an open stream of networking and collaboration.  People ask strangers questions about how-to, products, and more.   FB has a closed network of friends interacting about personal things.  This difference is obvious, but let&#8217;s talk about FB&#8217;s myopia in attempting to capture all of social networking, the &#8220;there can be only one!&#8221; mentality.  This has caused FB to move into territory that is unfamiliar, and it is seemingly eroding the base of trust and interactivity that made FB so popular to begin with.</p>
<p>Why did Myspace (maybe this is premature) fail?   The answer is that there was no accountability, no verifiability, and no real trust&#8230; which is where FB swooped in and confirmed status based off real world markers.  Is this person real?  Where do they work?  Where did they go to school? When?  What&#8217;s their birthdate?   Facebook found a way to solve that accountability problem, which gained them quite a bit of trust with users. This trust has been challenged multiple times with things like Beacon, etc.  The public outcry is because FB was famous for having built a trustworthy social network and then started eroding that trust by attempting to inject business and marketing.  Apparently, people didn&#8217;t want that on FB.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s funny is that the Beacon outcry was a huge disaster, but I am thinking it was a gain for FB because they were able to immediately rectify a big problem noting canceled accounts and the media buzz.  In light of this new issue, I think the erosion of the users trust will be just as severe, if not more so&#8230; but in a long term, sustained migration away to new networks (that are inevitably on the horizon).</p>
<p>The new problem might take far longer to discover&#8230; instead of a large group of people complaining, closing accounts, causing a stir immediately&#8230;. you are going to have one or two people at a time slowly get frustrated with &#8220;advertisements&#8221; and walk away, or unfan pages making any business commerce obsolete.  I still would love to know what that commerce is supposed to be anyway, but I guess that is a different post.</p>
<p>Now, I am using one of my largest, most popular brands to run an experiment for our fans:</p>
<p>&#8220;Cheers to all our fans! I would love to know your honest opinion. Facebook changed without asking all of you what *YOU* want. Do you find it an imposition or annoying to see pages interacting with your closed network of friends? I won&#8217;t post on the wall if it is dissonance. Please let me know!&#8221;</p>
<p>I will update you as I find out more information, but the test will be successful.  Either I find out what they think, or they don&#8217;t say a word and I further note that no *real* or *meaningful* interaction happens on Facebook in regards to business or brands.</p>
<p>It *might* be fine for posting events, but I really didn&#8217;t think anything more than long term brand building.</p>
<p>Now I am thinking it is not only *not* that&#8230; I think their new layout might actually kill any ability to market or further a brand.  Enough wall postings and people will be unfanning pages immediately.  &#8220;Why did I fan Tabasco hot sauce anyway?&#8221;, &#8220;He&#8217;s a great musician but I don&#8217;t need to know everything he is thinking!&#8221;, or &#8220;I love that hotel, but who cares about events I can never go to?&#8221;, ad naseoum.</p>
<p>Whatever the case, these are my ramblings.  I am one of the most patient, accepting, and brand aware people out there&#8230; and I was annoyed to the extent that I immediately acted, an unfanned a page.  If you have a guy like me doing that, no telling what people less tolerant of marketing will do, and how quickly they will react.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this is anything Facebook can fix&#8230; I just think it is something we will have to ride out and watch.  Any comments on this would be appreciated!  I am not going to shoot from the hip and suggest this is doom for Facebook, but I will suggest that this will rapidly become a problem.  Pages were totally benign before; now they are, frankly, annoying.  I know I am not the only one that thinks so&#8230; what about you?</p>
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