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		<title>Where does your hotel lose money &#8211; in marketing and distribution?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a really big question. I would love to see the industry really delve into this.  The transition from real world to online has been very fast, and a lot of the &#8220;infrastructure&#8221; is so much e-duct tape, putty, and last minute jury rigs &#8211; all of which should have meant to be temporary [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really big question. I would love to see the industry really delve into this.  The transition from real world to online has been very fast, and a lot of the &#8220;infrastructure&#8221; is so much e-duct tape, putty, and last minute jury rigs &#8211; all of which should have meant to be temporary so that we can rebuild our online world of distribution based off tried and true methods, as they evolve.  I know our industry is never that pro-active, but maybe we have an opportunity to start learning from where we are losing the most money, and patch those leaks.</p>
<p>This <a href="http://www.argophilia.com/news/" target="_blank">Argophilia</a> post by <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/philbo" target="_blank">Phillip Butler</a> starts the conversation: <a href="http://www.argophilia.com/news/big-bad-wolf-of-hotel-marketing/24698/comment-page-1/#comment-2966" target="_blank">Who is the big bad wolf of hotel marketing?</a>  Simply put, there isn&#8217;t just one &#8211;  OTA&#8217;s, Franchise Fees, Internet Marketing Fees, Booking Engine Fees.  This is one leaky ship.</p>
<p>Here is my response, but I am more interested in what all of you have to say?<br />
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<p>Great read. Thank you much. =)</p>
<p>I always thought of the OTA&#8217;s as something that filled the gap during the off line to online distribution evolution. They were a stopgap solution. They are now becoming unnecessary, and getting in the way of commerce because they are becoming obsolete, where they used to promote some level of commerce for our industry. Distribution has changed&#8230; and their role will phase out. It won&#8217;t be in the next 5, maybe 10&#8230;. but this will all change. I adore how people revile when you suggest the guy on top won&#8217;t be there forever.  The fact is, nothing is forever, and new paradigms unfold.</p>
<p>Another big bad wolf, on top of franchise fees? Ridiculous internet consulting firm charges by hourly consulting model.  <a href="http://buuteeq.com">Buuteeq</a> is doing some good with simple pricing plans&#8230; it makes a lot more sense, and you aren&#8217;t nickel and dimed for the internet marketing group&#8217;s mistakes or on the job training.</p>
<p>Lastly&#8230;. commissions to booking engines. Including the franchise fees, as well&#8230; Engines like Synexis get promoted by franchise and flag brands, which then take a cut. It&#8217;s incredible how much money is lost to an engine that simply helps facilitate online booking. Eventually, the hotels will realize the money lost can be recouped quickly by building and designing a proprietary engine of your own, off a template, for the hotel to own, outright. That can save 20K &#8211; 100K+ a year.  I imagine a management group could justify the development fees to an owner group, based solely off the last 3 years of annual or commissionable fees that the property made to the booking engine company.</p>
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<p>Would anyone have any idea how much it would cost for development of a competent template, and simple engine with solid UI &#8211; that includes a mobile component? Is that $100k or more?  I know&#8230; you can always spend more. =)</p>
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		<title>A coffee laden ramble about&#8230; hotel coffee. What does your coffee program, or lack of it, say about your hotel brand?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Story of Hotel Coffee. This is something I have done in the past &#8211; talking about the history of hotel systems and amenities, and where we are today.  It&#8217;s likely horribly self indulgent, as well as terribly boring&#8230;. but coffe is such an afterthought, in so many situations, it deserves, at least, it&#8217;s own [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: small;">The Story of Hotel Coffee.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">This is something I have done in the past &#8211; talking about the history of hotel systems and amenities, and where we are today.  It&#8217;s likely horribly self indulgent, as well as terribly boring&#8230;. but coffe is such an afterthought, in so many situations, it deserves, at least, it&#8217;s own post.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">We can start with my background in coffee:  I drink it. I drink quite a lot of it. I quite enjoy it.  I have a burr grinder. The burr grinder changed my coffee life.  As counter-intuitive as it is, I now understand why artisan roasters refuse to sell ground beans.  &#8221;But the market is there for it&#8221;, my simplistic free market capitalist economy mindset cajoles my caffeine addled nerves&#8230; but self respecting roasters know their bean isn&#8217;t honored by letting it die a slow and lonely death as a tired ground in a depressing bag.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">So&#8230; this is where we engage my hospitality mind, and wrestle with my pragmatic operations side, vs. my guest experience and brand equity side.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">My last installment about the history of hotel minutia rambled on about <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/06/01/the-story-of-the-in-room-phone-the-future-of-on-property-telephony/" target="_blank">hotel telephony: from PBX to modern software in place of hardware, and how it went from revenue stream to bungled system, all the way to how it exists today &#8211; a glorified in-house intercom</a> (which marketers try to dress up with LCD screens, ad nauseum).  The story of coffee, however, might not be as interesting&#8230; especially to those tech &amp; social fans who follow me (other than the giddy, amped ones who just placed <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/" target="_blank">another order for more caffeine related products from think geek</a>).  To those fans &#8211; hopefully my rollicking, coffee fueled post will be the little bouncing ball over the karaoke lyrics.  Have fun.</span></p>
<div><span style="font-size: small;">A friend recently asked me about an in-room answer to coffee, which then resulted in an animated sigh from my end.  Since May of 2008, I have opened 2 hotels, renovated a third, and am about to open a 3rd within the month.  Even in that short time, coffee has gone through a renaissance as well as a confusing array of options and concepts for servicing a guest just how they like to be serviced, each morning.  With sleepy eyes, &amp; bumping into things&#8230;. flavored water is better than nothing.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">So&#8230; here&#8217;s the story, history, and hopefully&#8230;. we will eventually get to the bottom of this stained mug that runneth over.  You are going to ask for an answer, and it&#8217;s going to be an honest one&#8230;. and probably not the one you want.  Unless you enjoy cold sweats and operational nightmares. I am a big coffee drinker, and our culture of coffee here in San Francisco beats Portlandia into the dust.  This recent <a href="http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201201091000" target="_blank">Forum on NPR talks coffee culture in San Francisco</a> with <a href="http://fourbarrelcoffee.com/" target="_blank">Four Barrel</a>, <a href="http://www.bluebottlecoffee.net/" target="_blank">Blue Bottle</a>, and <a href="http://ritualroasters.com/" target="_blank">Ritual Roasters</a>.  Frankly&#8230; some of how they do business, and how they position this &#8220;luxury coffee&#8221; trend is a bit vain, a little silly, with various levels of congenial pretentiousness (and jovial self-awareness)&#8230;. and the troubling and humbling part is that they are, absolutely, right.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">However &#8211; they are right when it comes to their business of coffee, *but* are they right as they silently judge how hotels manage their coffee program, which is often a secondary operational priority?</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">Here&#8217;s what people in hotels think&#8230;. which includes people who care, and don&#8217;t care, about coffee:</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">a) Coffee grounds suck.  Whether a french press or drip machine, having those used grounds are a dirty, gritty nightmare &#8211; for both guests, and more importantly, room attendants.  Machines overflow when unattended, and even when helpfully disposed of by a guest, there&#8217;s a treasure trail of grounds from the minibar to trash can.  You have to figure out how to grind on property without it snowing electro-static sprinkles all over your kitchen &#8211; then figure out how to control grounds in room; which invariably includes an imperfect receptacle to store the grounds, and an imperfect method of gauging the age of those grounds.  Housekeepers are not always keen on watching coffee grounds.  It&#8217;s not unlike watching cement dry, day to day.  I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but coffee hasn&#8217;t been an industry conversation to any great extent&#8230;. and those hotels that offer grounds in room?  You might want to ask for a new container, because I am sure, as I am hesitant to tell you, those are not fresh.  Uppity luxury ownership made their property level ops suffer grounds, mainly because owners had never dealt with actual work like changing a bed or cleaning a shower&#8230;.  or actually having to deal with a mess.  Prop level in-room open-ground coffee usually got (secretly) changed at property level by the hotel manager.  At times, grounds live on, in the room&#8230;. due to some GM so tired &amp; broken from battling ownership, he doesn&#8217;t even deal with it&#8230; and just let&#8217;s housekeeping or middle management cope/deal with it.  &#8221;It&#8217;s an operations problem&#8221;.  It sure is.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">b) so the industry got wise a few decades ago &#8211; and we went to hermetically sealed filter mesh-pods.  People don&#8217;t even like the word &#8220;hermetically&#8221;. It sounds weird.  It&#8217;s like when we had the strips on the toilet that said &#8220;<a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JcisOyEltU0/TFJDc-kkqwI/AAAAAAAAGjk/NN23gZ99Gs4/s1600/IMG_0016.JPG" target="_blank">Sanitized for your protection</a>&#8220;.  These hermetically sealed filter mesh-pods are supplied by some company that buys cheap beans, that were stored in a large warehouse for far too long, pre-ground months ahead of time, shipped in huge boxes across the country, only to sit in a warm and dank basement storage room.  By the time the water hits even the best of beans, they are dead, awful, and really bad, and possibly depressed (the latter is open to debate) &#8211; they taste like cardboard and intone the warehouse air the beans sat in for months.  They were, however, the penultimate, glorious, operational solution.  They also pushed coffee further into the realm of red headed step child in hotels&#8230;. a necessary evil that was available as an amenity to guests, while being something that NO ONE wanted to talk about&#8230;. that is, neither hotel operations nor guests ever wanted to talk about the coffee.  These filter pods never worked, and no one ever liked it.  It tasted like sock water&#8230; but as I said earlier, murky hot water is better than nothing when you just need to wake up.  The problem is that those coffee packets were so bad, people were waking up because of burnt tongues rather than a jolt of caffeine.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">c) Of course, that is if the machine can actually heat up the water.  That is something else we didn&#8217;t want to talk about, operationally &#8211; those 4 cup brewers.  Notoriously unreliable in that oh-so-perfect way that they work just enough for you to *not* get calls about them not working.  It&#8217;s not so much a machine to brew coffee as much as a machine to slightly frustrate you and eventually produce a flavorless warmish liquid.  What&#8217;s more&#8230;. don&#8217;t look in the water reservoir.  If you do, just pray those are mineral deposits.. and if they aren&#8217;t mineral deposits, or some mold, <a href="http://www.waff.com/global/story.asp?s=5980064" target="_blank">maybe it&#8217;s that it was part of a methamphetamine factory, once or twice</a>.  This disgusting reality, and fact, actually spurred some hoteliers to banish coffee from the rooms, and provide locally roasted, fresh ground coffee in a public area throughout the hotel&#8230; a thoughtful, respectable amenity that pisses guests off to no end.  In fact, many enjoy the accessibility of the good lobby coffee, and even respect the enviornmentally forward method of distributing it (less packaging, less waste, bulk production, etc)&#8230;. but many guests *still* favor lukewarm coffee flavored water with powdered grey &#8220;creamium&#8221; to start their day, even if they silently grumble to themselves just how bad it is.  So &#8211; hoteliers that took out in-room machines started looking for new options in-room, and those dealing with bad machines quickly cornered the capital needed to join in on a new trend &#8211; transformer-like bricks of plastic that confuse guests prior to spitting out coffee like water.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">d) These behemoth bricks of plastic are better known by their brand name &#8211; Keurig.  There are other machines, like Nespresso, who produce espresso like water that, really, is not *too* far from the real thing &#8211; but their pricing generally value engineers them as a viable option from your OSE budget.  Keurigs are a funny thing.  I *LOVE* hearing, in regards to these monster dispensers, &#8220;It taste so much like coffee&#8221;, or &#8220;It&#8217;s not too bad&#8221;.  If it&#8217;s good coffee, you generally don&#8217; t need to say it &#8220;tastes like coffee&#8221; if it actually tastes like coffee, because it tastes like coffee.  You only need to say it tastes like coffee, if, in reality, it tastes nothing like or is nearly identifiable to coffee.  It is just like you say &#8220;it&#8217;s not too bad&#8221; when it&#8217;s *honestly* bad, but you are trying not to hurt anyone&#8217;s feelings.  In reality, the stuff is just a different form of sock water, aka coffee lite.  It&#8217;s not good, and it&#8217;s weird&#8230; because it looks and smells like coffee but it only resembles it and is, actually, quite unlike coffee, at all.  That pretentious claptrap aside, I have other, more valid, points&#8230;. now from the operator side of my mind.  <a href="http://www.waterfordhi.com" target="_blank">We</a> got hooked into this craze&#8230;. we replaced an entire hotel with these machines.  Just because I know and enjoy good coffee does *not* mean that it is every guest&#8217;s main priority, such that ancient grounds in a teensy foil cup, placed in a vending machine style dispenser, might be completely acceptable (even as we coffee snobs guffaw at the philistines).  So my operator experience, and advice, about Keurig&#8217;s, and why you should *really* think twice about using them?  I know they seem ubiquitous at this point, but guests do not understand Keurigs.  At all.  They break them &#8211; constantly. I know it seems simple, but they destroy them time and time again.  It&#8217;s sadly hilarious, you know?  Our guests are probably above average in intelligence, too&#8230;.  A guest can be a wonderful, bright, intuitive person, while guests can be panicky mobs of idiots that smish smash things when they get confused&#8230;. especially if they haven&#8217;t had any AM java.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">So&#8230; here we are.  Sitting amongst a pile of options ill equipped to make everyone happy.  Let&#8217;s revisit our choices, then&#8230;</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">1) You can use those hermetically sealed filter-pods that will never, ever EVER be good&#8230; not ever&#8230;.  it means you don&#8217;t give a damn about coffee, nor your guest&#8217;s needs, and you really just want to be able to say you have the amenity, while delivering an in-room sadness.  I mean this from the bottom of my heart, but Starbucks &#8220;VIA&#8221; packets are an exceptional invention, and are a far cry better than those traditional in room packets.  No.. really.  Like Keurigs, this shouldn&#8217;t really be an option anymore.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">2)  Starbucks VIA packets?  They&#8217;re not cheap, and if you overstock, they would walk more than in-room coffee packets because they actually exceed traditional hotel coffee in flavor.  That&#8217;s an expensive operating cost, but it might wash when you consider labor, drip machines, etc.  It&#8217;s odd to be saying it, as it&#8217;s one of those things you say &#8220;It tastes like coffee&#8221;, but if you haven&#8217;t tried them, it might be the acceptable, simple, answer for both guest and operational needs.  I am somewhat surprised I haven&#8217;t seen these more often in hotel settings&#8230;. and wonder aloud if Starbucks has considered partnering with hotels.  They&#8217;re in enough lobbies that they could saunter over to the desk and start a profitable revenue stream a-growin&#8217;!</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">3) Onward towards future innovation?  Innovation as an option, frankly, I can&#8217;t comprehend &#8211; as it&#8217;s not my &#8220;field&#8221;.  I can&#8217;t imagine a pocket sized burr grinder that could grind beans into a drip or press system that would deliver the coffee and fully dispose of the grounds in a simple manner &#8211; completely self contained and easy to clean.  Actually, I just said it, so I *can* imagine it.  If I can imagine it, why hasn&#8217;t someone else?  Get to it coffee people!</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">So&#8230;</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">What do we do?  Have another cup, and plan another meeting about it?  In the end&#8230; (Oh my gosh is it really the end????)</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">Is the answer &#8211; really &#8211; to suck it up, operationally, and supply a coffee program to the guest that provides fresh grounds in your guest rooms?  That&#8217;s even a challenge for the coffee royalty, because they, likely, would prefer to see a guest grind beans themselves, so the coffee is as fresh as possible, and as least &#8220;dead&#8221; as it can be.  The fact is, we can&#8217;t grind in room&#8230; I could easily imagine a hallway of beans going off at 6.30am, like a symphony of metal teeth eschewing their users sleepiness, while aggravating others.  But maybe we can settle on this being the right operational decision&#8230;. back-of-house grinding, with a housekeeping based coffee delivery and clean up program.  That is, if coffee *really* is part of your program.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">But&#8230;. (waiiiiit for it)&#8230;&#8230;</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">In my mind, everything is part of the program, story, brand, and message.  Whatever crappy marketing terms you want to drool out there&#8230;. everything says something about your hotel and your brand.  Whether it&#8217;s a poorly fitting uniform, or a lousy shampoo amenity&#8230;. every single point in a hotel is an opportunity to *really* reach the guest, and make a difference in their stay, their day, and maybe their lives (you know the moment a guest finds a new brand they love, having experienced it at your property &#8211; we have guests buy beds, soaps, etc).</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">I was speaking to a kindly gent from Four Barrel, and he said something astute:  He had looked at other hotels, but could tell coffee wasn&#8217;t part of the focus.  It was an afterthought.  They didn&#8217;t want to be part of that sort of program.  Coffee is *not* an afterthought to those who roast and serve it, and certainly not to those who enjoy it.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size: small;">Those afterthoughts are some of the most impacting moments in the guest experience.  How a glass tumler or piece of silverware feels in the hand, or how a light shines in through the window into sleeping eyes, or ** just how bad that morning coffee was **.  I admit, as a coffee drinker, I have stayed in some fine resorts &amp; hotels &#8211; and if that coffee packet is bad in the morning, it&#8217;s a big topic of conversation in our party, throughout the day, often overriding the other positives that should dominate our stay, and memory.  Those &#8220;touchpoints&#8221; that some hoteliers, and ground to the nub operators, think of as minutia, can actually be overriding aspects that <span style="text-decoration: underline;">dominate</span> a stay.  For those who have designed and built hotels, this is *SO MUCH EASIER SAID THAN DONE* &#8211; but everything needs to be thought out, and everything should come down to the guest experience, which will hopefully override operational necessity.  If you sacrifice guest experience for operational efficiency, that&#8217;s not being anything but lazy.  That is not what hospitality is about.</span></div>
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<div>I *was* the guy that would have had to deal with the pain of being a property that allows open coffee grounds in rooms&#8230;.. but I am quickly coming to terms with the fact that it&#8217;s the right thing to do, and the right way to do it.  In this, you might be able to partner with a local roaster that can be part of your hotel&#8217;s story, and anchor you firmly in the community, creating a stronger neighborhood with deeper ties&#8230; part of a larger story than just your hotel.</div>
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<div> Then, hell&#8230; stamp your logo on their coffee, and sell it to your guests, as well.  Maybe that revenue can make up the additional operating costs involved with the mess.</div>
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<div>You&#8217;re lucky I only had 3 cups today.  Here&#8217;s to the finest of roasts, and hoping to see them in the finest of hotels.  Happy sipping, and good luck figuring this out.  What do you do?  Do you have a program you would like to share, or an idea that might work? Let me hear it!</div>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are numbers this small to be expected?  In the world of hard to track impressions and marketing measurements that provided some data and guidance (however skeptical I always am) - some people have said, "so what, who cares, it's to be expected".  But numbers *THAT* small?  Is that part of the Pareto Efficiency, or does the principle come into play (if you believe in that)?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI" target="_blank">What does it all mean?</a> (that link is a funny Youtube clip, as a palette cleanser).</p>
<p>Depending on how this one goes, I think this is my second to last or last post *ever* haranguing on, or thinking this deeply about, Facebook.  Blue in the Face makes one look crazy, especially if no one is listening&#8230; and beyond the simple fact that I may be wrong, and happily eat humble crow as I become more aware&#8230;.. I do see some meaningful interaction on Facebook.  It takes some time, and for me it took *opening* my network.  This concept of a &#8220;closed&#8221; network seems bizarre to me, and it limited real, meaningful interaction, the likes of which I remember from IRC or topical boards.</p>
<p>You have seen me talk about this in regards to<a href="http://www.hotelmarketingstrategies.com/facebook-fanbase-for-big-brands/"> Hospitality Brand&#8217;s respective Facebook Pages, and the lack of real interaction</a>&#8230; even when they are done well.  When it comes down to it, there are some problems with the way Facebook Pages work.  This post is, to some degree, a slapdash missive of a rebuttal to this post about the <a href="http://www.socialmediaexaminer.com/top-10-facebook-pages/" target="_blank">Top Ten Facebook Brand Pages</a>.  There are 100&#8242;s of those <span id="more-1290"></span>&#8220;top 10&#8243; posts, but it&#8217;s a good post with some interesting thoughts&#8230; and they are the perfect pages to &#8220;pick apart&#8221;, so to speak.  I want to ask some questions (that I don&#8217;t have any answers to) that result from crunching interaction numbers, informally, as well as gauge what it means to have a &#8220;fan&#8221;.  Hopefully it sparks conversation?  I also want to delve into why there are real challenges for creating that meaningful interaction Facebook Pages.</p>
<p>Before we start looking at the nature of these brand page interactions, we need a little background on what Facebook is.  First, <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/social.media/08/30/facebook.narcissism.mashable/#fbid=coYMhx7d403&amp;wom=false">Facebook&#8217;s narcissism problem is duly noted</a>, and it means that Facebook users will wear a brand Page like a pair of Chanel glasses or Dolce purse.  In the Facebook universe, where interaction is &#8220;me&#8221; first, the network later, much (not all) of brand interaction is selfish, opportunistic, and all for show.  It isn&#8217;t at the brand&#8217;s convenience (nor should we expect consumers to act like that), so much as being an emblem for the consumer, and not something they expect to have a real relationship with.  In fact, I talk passionately about<a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2010/06/21/hidden-streams-on-facebook-pages-profiles-over-sharing-and-attention-curation-as-equity/" target="_blank"> how bizarre &#8220;hiding streams&#8221; is within Facebook</a>, and how that effects the way we post, the attention we lost, and the importance of curating it.  For example, the above &#8220;top brand pages&#8221;, while researching this article, had this post, right by the brand name:</p>
<p><a rel="attachment wp-att-1293" href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2010/09/01/facebook-brand-pages-community-interaction-what-do-we-know/jones-unlike/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1293" title="jones unlike" src="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/jones-unlike.png" alt="" width="580" height="295" /></a></p>
<p>I think it might suggest, based off the &#8220;Top Ten Brand Pages&#8221; article, that we need to look at how we interact with our communities.  It&#8217;s only one example, but at least they said something.  If stats are right, 70-90% of other people didn&#8217;t say a word and just hid their wall posts from view, forevermore.  Another reason I won&#8217;t be posting much more about this Facebook nonsense: I sound like a broken record, stuck in a rare groove.  But as I have said before&#8230;. People are just understanding the crisis of perception in social media:<strong> it&#8217;s not about the &#8220;me&#8221;. It is about everyone else</strong>. In general, no one gives a hoot about your photos of dinner, your baby, your vacation (not to be dour; just grumpy hyperbole to pilot an idea into the harbor).  It makes people look arrogant and self absorbed &#8211; back to the narcissism study.  Of course, there are *many* *many* Facebook users that are *not* like that, and you are probably one of them.</p>
<p>Those who spend time on the meta level of social tech (IE not the ones who respond, when you are looking for a conversation, with &#8220;internetz iz serious bidness&#8221;) are definitely not the ones passively or flippantly interacting, nor the 70% who are simply &#8220;lurkers&#8221; or people that do not actually interact.  That data is from <a href="http://forrester.typepad.com/groundswell/" target="_blank">Forrester&#8217;s Groundswell</a>, a book I suggest you pick up.  <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/90-percent-of-user-gen-site-visitors-are-lurkers-and-its-ok-2010-8" target="_blank">This recent article</a> talks about 90% non participants who exist to consume information, and links to <a href="http://www.useit.com/alertbox/participation_inequality.html" target="_blank">this article</a> has data on the idea that 90% lurk.  As I mentioned <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2010/03/31/smtravel-conference-mashup-hospitalitytraveltourism-the-current-state-of-social-media/" target="_blank">in a previous pos</a>t, &#8220;lurkers – we know you are out there eating our posts&#8221;  Social media works best when it is about EVERYONE else&#8230; real communication, real collaboration.  For example, you should be able to view this thread from my profile.  Instead of talking about me, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/OnlineConcierge#!/OnlineConcierge?v=wall&amp;story_fbid=147291358626757" target="_blank">I asked what they did</a>. There wasn&#8217;t just *more* interaction, but it was personal, meaningful, and more robust than one off comments on viral videos like &#8220;lol&#8221; or &#8220;That&#8217;s great&#8221;.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Like&#8221; button is an activity and concept that I can wrap my head around, but it becomes incredibly frustrating when you realize Facebook&#8217;s attempt to hook itself into the framework of the internet leads to the single most passive social interaction that has ever existed, and that&#8217;s going to be an issue for brands and pages.  At least, it might make us take stock about what we really know about Page usage, and if it&#8217;s better to sit silently, curate attention, and post only when vital.  Allow people the pleasure of brand advocacy, and comment and follow up when necessary&#8230;. but it may be that our forced excitement and expectation in using these tools is putting off our consumers.  If everyone focused on the network, instead of, naturally, being more self interested&#8230; think of the level of real interaction that would create between people, brands, and one another?</p>
<p>Herein lies an obvious problem, of whether it is my place to even suggest that people should change their underlying instincts or natural patterns in how they interact.  In fact, I could be trying to yoke a powerfully ingrained genetic compulsion.</p>
<p>One person is simply a node&#8230; and nothing else. If Oprah or Ashton dropped from Twitter, all that would happen is that the network map would fill itself.  People do not matter&#8230; it&#8217;s the network that matters.  It&#8217;s about the multiple nodes, <a href="http://www.analytictech.com/networks/weakties.htm" target="_blank">weak ties</a>, and flow of ideas and communication&#8230;. and one node could disappear without a blip.  Cancel your facebook account and see how much it actually effects your network.  An important issue is that, if you start hiding streams in Facebook, in my opinion, it may make the network unstable, or at least, less meaningful.  Weak ties are less obvious to the network, and this PDF (following link autodownloads) of Granovetter&#8217;s <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CBwQFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fciteseerx.ist.psu.edu%2Fviewdoc%2Fdownload%3Fdoi%3D10.1.1.128.7760%26rep%3Drep1%26type%3Dpdf&amp;ei=geh-TL-nO4ymsQOXysGaCw&amp;usg=AFQjCNGHZplC6yc0_UwUSHZuWHSfQYLj5A&amp;sig2=cDycio2hNda8ZQQR9l548g" target="_blank">&#8220;Strength of Weak Ties&#8221;</a> article has some pretty amazing conjecture about them being markedly important in regards to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_science" target="_blank">Network Science</a>.  It&#8217;s a big problem even judging how many eyes on your page.</p>
<p>As soon as people realize this, we will start using social tools in a more intelligent and organized way.  To defer potential conceit on my part, I want to remind anyone reading this that you are likely ahead of the curve as well, and I am unabashed in suggesting that users need to mature somewhat before these tools can reach their potential.  The <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_wants_to_be_your_one_true_login.php" target="_blank">Read Write Web login debacle</a> might be proffered forth, yet again, as evidence of Facebook, or Google, users&#8217; relative dimness as to how to use the internet.  Of course, the point can be said is that<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_google_failed_internet_meme.php" target="_blank"> it&#8217;s Google and/or Facebook&#8217;s fault</a> because they need to be able to explain this stuff to users.</p>
<p>These social conversation tools are the single biggest shift in human communication in history, and people are taking photos of amuse bouche or retouching a vacation shot to make other people jealous&#8230;. the same other people who aren&#8217;t actually looking at another person&#8217;s page because they are quite busy acting like a star on their own page, hoping people notice *them*.  Facebook&#8217;s potential competitor from Google is tentatively named &#8220;ME&#8221; &#8211; well played Google. Is that deliberate, guys?</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t spend my time on this, but I am somewhat irked that everyone has shrugged their shoulders and said, &#8220;I guess Facebook is as good as this will get,&#8221; and are, again, allowing FB to hook itself into the framework of the internet.  It&#8217;s a difficult proposition for me.  It&#8217;s quickly becoming <a href="http://themoderatevoice.com/72691/facebook-the-open-web-the-walled-garden/" target="_blank">bigger than a monopoly</a> (a linked article that comments on the fact that the internet is *incredibly* well linked, interactive, and stable *outside* of Facebook).  If Facebook becomes the internet, some form of public utility that is not removable from the architecture of the internet, that is a big problem. It stifles creativity, and competition cannot exist in an uneven market like this.  Even with a smattering of bungled launches or app experiments that have gone viral (like Wave), Google needs to knock it out of the park with the competitor.  I am not so sure someone is in the position to really compete.</p>
<p>I have some ideas for Google Me&#8230; maybe it&#8217;s simply my own network I am talking about.  Could you imagine a social network based off of proximite geo-community, hyperlocality, and topical interests&#8230;. rather than some wholly arbitrary closed network that allows you to conntect to 20 year dead contacts that are as arbitrary as having a locker near them in grammar school?  If anyone wants to help build it, inquire within.  I sure as hell can imagine it. =)  But the real point isn&#8217;t this complex new science of networking, nor is it the immediate issues with the existence of Facebook. It&#8217;s the existing interaction and community that is really happening around these brands.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at Jones Sodas first, since we unfairly took a one in a million negative comment that I barely caught upon their profile.</p>
<p><a rel="attachment wp-att-1296" href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2010/09/01/facebook-brand-pages-community-interaction-what-do-we-know/jonescomments/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1296" title="jones_cola_comments" src="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/jonescomments.png" alt="" width="657" height="428" /></a></p>
<p>So in this one snapshot (which is hardly enough to make this a proper study) &#8211; the first post has .0001003 / .01003%  likes, and .0000522 / .00522% comments.  What is a normal impression, or what is expected of 90% non contributors?  The second post has .0003772 / .03772% likes, and .0001164 / .01164% comments.  I only include the percentages, because there is a HUGE difference between .037% interaction vs how people sometimes look at a number that small..contes. 3.72%.  It&#8217;s the former, and that&#8217;s tiny.</p>
<p><a rel="attachment wp-att-1298" href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2010/09/01/facebook-brand-pages-community-interaction-what-do-we-know/red-bull/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1298" title="Redbull_Facebook_Page" src="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/red-bull.png" alt="" width="702" height="435" /></a></p>
<p>At the time of my post, Redbull has 7,957,179 fans. Pardon me for not having it in this picture.  That&#8217;s about the population of London or Chicago.  The two interactions showing have interaction rates (this is not even a standardized metric, by any means.. but it illustrates a strong point) as follows:  #1 = .0003777 / .03777% &#8220;likes&#8221; and .0000269 / .00269% commented.  #2 (sex sells) =  .0005072 &#8216;likes&#8221; and .0000387 / .00387% commented.</p>
<p>I was going to go through this for the entire list of 10, but you may understand my point (that I am, sloppily, beating into the ground).  I will do one more, as I already did Burt Bee&#8217;s interaction info on Twitter, as well.</p>
<p><a rel="attachment wp-att-1297" href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2010/09/01/facebook-brand-pages-community-interaction-what-do-we-know/oreo/"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1297" title="oreo" src="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/oreo.png" alt="" width="682" height="429" /></a></p>
<p>At the time of posting 9,084,488 people &#8220;liked&#8221; the Oreo fanpage.  In the above, .0005586 / .05586% liked (a little more than one twentieth of one percent or 1/20%) and .0003344 / .03344% commented, the second posting was .0001671 / .01671% liked and .0000216 / .00216% commented.</p>
<p>I think you get the point&#8230;. even the most successful brand pages are creating interaction and real community involvement that is such a small percentage of their supposed community, we have to ask how this actually works?</p>
<p>I understand it&#8217;s a distribution channel, and you need to be available to guests and consumers that wish to interact with you on their own terms in their own comfort zones&#8230;. but numbers this small are almost impossible to fathom.  The way people are prostelytized by brands, I, personally, would imagine interaction levels much higher&#8230; at least into whole percentage points.  Is this Facebook&#8217;s fault?  Is this something greater involving the crisis of perception in social media?</p>
<p>More questions: Is having a contest that garners fans on your page a good measure of a potential consumer?  Are you attracting consumers that like contests, or consumers focused on the quality of your brand?  Is gaining a fan more important than interaction and community?  When you discount on a Facebook page, are you giving back money to a branded consumer that was already prepared to pay full price?  These numbers are similar across the board, and I see endless smaller brand or hotel pages that don&#8217;t have a powerhouse of a community to energize.  Should we spend our time on this?  Should we spend our time on this &#8230;. *yet*?</p>
<p>Henry Harteveldt&#8217;s sage wisdom was so simple and zen:  &#8221;Give it time.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Twilight Fan Page on Facebook has over 12 million fans&#8230; that&#8217;s the population of Calcutta or Los Angeles.  But, interaction levels are about the same, as they are for all major brands.  Crunch the numbers yourself, it&#8217;s fairly easy.</p>
<p>I am not claiming this to be a bona fide metric, but it begs some very important conversation.  Is this simply a wiki page for your brand advocate&#8217;s to show off their incessant narcissism &#8211; more about how you make them look &amp; feel, rather than wanting a connection to a community?  If that&#8217;s the case, how much energy and time (and labor dollars) does a hotel invest on this brand advocacy versus legitimate conversation?</p>
<p>My main question is this:  (as I sit and panic, and quandry, and furrow my brow):</p>
<p>Are numbers this small to be expected?</p>
<p>In the world of hard to track impressions and marketing measurements that dp provided a modicum of data and guidance (however skeptical I always am) &#8211; some people have said, &#8220;so what, who cares, it&#8217;s to be expected&#8221;.  But numbers *THAT* small?  Is that part of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_efficiency" target="_blank">Pareto Efficiency</a>, or does the principle come into play (if you believe in that)?  I am not saying you shouldn&#8217;t be on Facebook with a page, <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/27/facebook-for-hotels-what-are-we-trying-to-achieve-so-far-seems-to-be-nothing/" target="_blank">but what are we trying to do?</a> This isn&#8217;t meant to be about misery or confusion, but I would quite like to see a conversation struck up about this.</p>
<p>What do you think?  I would love to know!</p>
<p>ED Note: A couple new articles in the past few days.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/content/article/why_marketers_often_get_it_wrong_with_facebook/" target="_blank">70% of FB users that have &#8220;liked&#8221; your page do *not* consider that permission to market to them</a>.  Hey&#8230; I am on your side. That&#8217;s just idiotic.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/node/16909935" target="_blank">And there are other &#8220;virtual crumedgeons&#8221; out there</a>&#8230; fairly intelligent ones. In that link, the Economist reviews Jarod Lanier&#8217;s new book &#8220;You are not a Gadget&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to know that the 100% solar, 100% off grid Wilbur Hot Springs has seen this market opening up for some time&#8230; the unplugging escapists.  They highlight a number of fascinating New York Times articles here, and make a case for backing off a bit. <a href="http://wilburhotsprings.tumblr.com/post/1015407257/letsescapetogether" target="_blank">Your brain on computers, indeed</a>. See you at Wilbur.  (Full disclosure &#8211; I put that piece together for them).</p>
<p>Ed Note (7th Sept 2010):</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chrisbrogan.com/social-crash/" target="_blank">Chris Brogan&#8217;s &#8220;The Coming Social Crash</a>&#8221; article is interesting&#8230; about the impending mass step back from all these overwhelming tools.</p>
<p>But I stumbled on this today, and thought it was far too relevant to not attach.  I love the analogy of the story of social networking&#8230; but &#8220;<a href="http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/09/04/have-we-lost-the-plot-on-social-networking/" target="_blank">Have we lost the plot in social networking</a>?&#8221;  Some of the questions raised in that article are profound.  Can you really be #1 simply because you *are* #1?  How long is that model going to work for them?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all know that Facebook is buggy, and for some businesses and neophytes, figuring out all of the settings and controls must be like wading through syrup.

There is one simple fact, and it's that the way you want consumers to use Facebook is *not* the way that Facebook users are using it. Yet.

The way some people post on their Facebook Hotel Page, it's tantamount to pounding on your guest's door all hours of the day with little bits of information.  It's overwhelming, and it is off-putting.

The network that is supposed to connect everyone in the world is doing more to create a completely "tromp l'oeil" experience in regards to social media - it looks more like a network than it really is.

It's time to rethink your eagerness versus effectiveness on Facebook Pages.  Of course, as I write this... all I can do is wonder about Facebook's effectiveness, overall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Twitter and user generated review sites seem to  have a lot more ROI, interaction, and traction than Facebook &#8212; which is only unfortunate because it seems they get less attention than Facebook.  Unlucky FB users, on the other hand, are stuck in the loop of hating Facebook, while being completely incapable of escaping it. People are already asking if <a href="Facebook actually has a monopoly" target="_blank">Facebook actually has a monopoly</a>, and whether it should be managed as a utility.  I don&#8217;t like that conversation, because it&#8217;s like we are giving up on the obvious fact &#8211; there could be something better.  Until then, we need to stay on top of this poorly conceived, and inherently damaged, network.</p>
<p>There is a big discussion going on about the equity of  attention  in social media, and that curating attention is more  important than  posting information.  Curation is a fine line, and studies have<span id="more-1098"></span> shown  that <a href="curation works better through less posting of more pertinent info" target="_blank">curation  works better through less posting of more pertinent  info</a>, than more  posting of one-off links, stories, etc.  Social  Media is becoming quite good at capturing attention (think contests, PR stunts, promos, or other gimmicks), but maintenance of these relationships is becoming more important, difficult, and confounding.   If you look  at <a href="http://www.groupon.com/san-francisco/" target="_blank">Groupon</a>, <a href="http://homerun.com/san-francisco" target="_blank">Homerun</a>, and other coupon services (like San  Francisco&#8217;s SF  Gate deals that just started) &#8211; it isn&#8217;t hard to build a  network so much as keeping that network interacting, which is the real challenge.  These coupon services are ideal examples: People will sign up for a specific offer (relevant to their interests), then react like the rest of the email offers (which they opted-in to) are part of their &#8220;daily spam regimen&#8221; (delete, delete, delete).</p>
<p>It is important to step out of your world as the business using social media to reach guests, and think how users of social media would like to be reached.</p>
<p>So&#8230; Facebook Pages, over-posting, and hiding streams.</p>
<p>We need to address this issue about how people use Facebook, versus how businesses wish people would use Facebook.  There is a fast growing problem that fledgling social media enthusiasts &amp; page administrators are not aware of; although, they are encountering it daily in their happy-go-lucky power posting of relevant information for their hotels.</p>
<p><em><strong>There are less eyes on your Facebook page than you realize, and you are losing more all the time.</strong></em></p>
<p>It is a universal gripe&#8230;. even though no one truly  enjoys  Facebook, we need to be there as a business simply because  that&#8217;s where  potential guests are located, and that&#8217;s where we can perk  up our ears  to listen for mentions about our brand, and grow when we  encounter  advice or commentary.  Firm ROI is secondary to our  experimental  presences on Facebook profiles and pages.  Some <em>are, </em>in fact<em>, </em>successful in driving  incremental  revenue to outlets, some achieve positive brand building,  some act as help-all concierges, some operate as ombudsmen, and still  others have zero idea what they are doing or why they are there.  But businesses <strong>know</strong> they need to be available to their potential clients, even without a mitigated plan.  I think this is where a slight disconnect occurs for the business (and I have a whole post about this coming up):  People think it is about the business using social media (YAY! We&#8217;re HERE!), but it&#8217;s more about the availability of the business for the consumer.  More precisely, it&#8217;s about being available, but not being intrusive.  The way some people post on their Facebook Hotel Page, it&#8217;s tantamount to pounding on your guest&#8217;s door all hours of the day with little bits of information.  It&#8217;s overwhelming, and it is off-putting.</p>
<p>There is one simple fact, and it&#8217;s that the way  you want  consumers to use Facebook is *not* the way that Facebook users  are using  it. Yet.</p>
<p>We all know that Facebook is buggy, and for some businesses and neophytes, figuring out all of the settings and controls must be like wading through syrup.  For business&#8217; savvy enough to realize you need to reach your audience where that audience chooses to congregate (chat rooms, groups, Twitter, etc), it isn&#8217;t made any easier by Facebook, and their lack of interactivity or ability to create real commerce with people.  Connections happen, and they are wonderful to see develop, but people are still reticent to have any real interaction  with  &#8220;business-as-commerce&#8221; versus &#8220;business-as-brand&#8221;, which is obvious in  Facebook&#8217;s  positioning with the ease of &#8220;liking&#8221;.   The throwaway simplicity of &#8220;liking&#8221; a brand at this point is meant to identify user profiles for targeted ad marketing, and not to promote any real deep interaction with the brand page itself.  Meaning, people are quite ready to &#8220;wear&#8221; a Facebook page brand as they would Gucci sunglasses or Prada bag, but they are not ready to transact with the brands themselves.  A  lot of feedback from Facebook users is that business page posts still have the &#8220;feel&#8221; of being  &#8220;spammy&#8221;.  With that in mind, we are already fighting an uphill battle in seeking out ways to connect with Facebook users that are fans of our specific brands.  This becomes precarious, however, because many businesses over-post pics and info in an eager and noble attempt to share their services/products.  This can actually drive people away.</p>
<p>Of course, the logical way a social network would remedy this is to have the brand advocate user &#8220;unfriend&#8221; or &#8220;defan&#8221; a page.  That way, a business page could use data exhaust and user actions to help learn in real time about what they do well, or what they might be doing wrong.  This works quite well on Twitter, and their are even Apps built on the API that allow users to find out precisely what they did that lost, or gained, followers.</p>
<p>But leave it to Facebook, a company obviously more concerned with user-experience less than the monetary value of those previous &#8220;likes&#8221;, to create the ability to &#8220;hide streams&#8221;.  It isn&#8217;t Facebook&#8217;s concern that a page isn&#8217;t curating attention, so much that the user enjoys a brand.  To Facebook, liking the brand is more important than telling the brand they are interacting poorly.  Once a Facebook user has chosen to &#8220;LIKE&#8221; a page, they will do almost anything to maintain that superficial connection for ad-model demographic targeting reasons.</p>
<p>Leave it to Facebook&#8217;s closed, corrupted environment to allow disingenuous networks; instead of Facebook creating meaningful networks of truly interactive partners, they have allowed users to hide streams, so you can be part of a network without really interacting with it. For those that are completely unaware,  the option exists within  Facebook to &#8220;hide&#8221; a stream, be it a page, an  app, or person.  This is  wonderful if you are sick of Foursquare check  ins or Mafia Wars updates  from friends, but it violates a vital aspect  of social media&#8217;s earnest  and transparent attempt at communication, and  interactivity.  When a  &#8220;stream&#8221; becomes overactive (constant updates,  possibly via RSS or blog  feed), or hyperactive (admin posting multiple  links rapid fire,  attempting to batch process relevant content for the  hotel)&#8230;. users  are hiding your stream.</p>
<p>This is a problem &#8211; not just for businesses, but for Facebook, as well.  Facebook is creating vast, HUGE false networks, or at least connections without interaction.  I don&#8217;t mean to be glib &#8211; but doesn&#8217;t it strike you as worrisome that a vast community of people isn&#8217;t really that much of a community at all?  I know it&#8217;s a vague concept, but how much trust will you stake in a network based off of false pretenses? The network that is supposed to connect everyone in the world is doing more to create a completely &#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trompe-l%27%C5%93il" target="_blank">tromp l&#8217;oeil</a>&#8221; experience in regards to social media &#8211; it looks more like a network than it really is.  In the simplest terms, this is going to come back to bite Facebook big time, and they will have to make some decisions about hidden streams in the future.</p>
<p>The entire aspect of being able to be friends with people, or  like a page, with the ability to &#8220;hide&#8221; their stream is disastrous on  the effect of real networking, communication, and building potential  commerce from within Facebook.  When your stream is  hidden, you have no idea that it has happened.  When a Facebook user  hides your posts, they still  &#8220;like&#8221; your brand, and are associated with  it&#8230;.. *WITHOUT EVER SEEING YOUR CONTENT*.  You disappear from their  eyes, and you now have &#8220;phantom fans&#8221; who don&#8217;t interact with you.  Of  course, Facebook made &#8220;liking&#8221; something inordinately easy to do, a  couple months ago.  But in accomplishing their social graph concept, it  further dismantles meaningful communication and interaction in lieu of passive,  meaningless brand identity meant for ad-marketing, with zero regard to relevant idea  exchange.</p>
<p>So, when users &#8220;hide&#8221; the stream, they still look like fans, but they don&#8217;t receive your posts anymore. Facebook, or the fan, doesn&#8217;t alert you, nor are you informed in any way.  The business, as a result,  has no idea they have been   &#8220;hidden&#8221;, while the Page&#8217;s fan count will remain constant.  It&#8217;s been   happening for a lot of business pages, and it&#8217;s becoming a problem for   people that don&#8217;t understand the interaction people expect from a   business, versus the interaction a business wants (wishes) to have with their   clients.  If a business can&#8217;t learn from their mistakes, how will this experience improve for the people involved? If a user can haphazardly &#8220;like&#8221; at the same time as &#8220;hiding&#8221; those people or pages, is that really a relevant connection?</p>
<p>Your hotel may have 1000 fans, but what if 100 have hidden  you? There has been so little conversation en masse about this &#8220;hiding&#8221;  phenomenon, that I can&#8217;t accurately gauge what percentage of &#8220;like&#8221;-fans  end up hiding pages, but in every day conversation about Facebook, in an  extensive group of acquaintances, it seems to be a very common, and  very popular, activity.  That&#8217;s scary.  If it&#8217;s a commonly known function in Facebook, you could have 30-70% of your audience not listening anymore.  That&#8217;s really scary.</p>
<p>Frankly I find it  markedly cynical, and disingenuous.  If I had any clout, I would ask  Facebook to stop it right now, and not because I don&#8217;t like being able to hide things in my own stream.  I  love not seeing any of those apps populating wall, but it does  make my decisions to &#8220;follow&#8221; and &#8220;like&#8221; pages less meaningful, and less legitimate.  If I <strong><em>couldn&#8217;t </em></strong>hide a feed, would I really  fan a page, if I knew I were meant to legitimately interact and  communicate with that brand?  Would the brands be intelligent enough to  know how to court users, or captivate them enough so as not to drive  them away?</p>
<p>I have had some success with how I manage interaction on  Facebook&#8230; I post a link occasionally, but save most of the meat for a  blog post which includes events, commentary, relevant google alert  posts, comments, info &#8211; and then let that blog post feed into Facebook.  It is a  whole bunch of posts / links in one single post.  That way people can  access and interact with it if they want, at their leisure.  Instead of the links coming across their wall as one post  at a time, they all sit in one place for the guest&#8217;s convenience.  One post with 20 links seems to be received much more  favorably than 20 links posted once at a time.  Remember, this isn&#8217;t about you or your business force marketing or pushing your brand onto Facebook users; this is a place for you to be available to potential guests. Don&#8217;t get carried away.</p>
<p>If you overpost,  you risk becoming irrelevant without having any knowledge or metric from  Facebook to see how you are doing, or what you can do to curate the  attention necessary to strike a balance.  Attention, in this new  &#8220;economy&#8221;, is equity.  And curating the attention is now your sole job.   That&#8217;s interesting &#8211; because in our rush to curate attention, a lot of  us forgot to ask how, precisely, to do that.  In an eager rush to share  exciting news about your hotel, you may be losing eyes without having  any say in the matter.  The only real option is to patiently fence sit, and be a  skeptic.</p>
<p>My thought is to be patient, and ride out this precarious situation.  For the time being, Facebook users are hesitant to interact with businesses; when  it becomes more acceptable, *then* get more interactive with your fans regarding products, selling, etc.   For now, we want to curate, and maintain, this  attention.  The best way to do it is by being calculating, and to some extent&#8230; quiet.  At least make sure your formula = less posts + better content.</p>
<p>I, unfortunately, don&#8217;t have any answers.  It&#8217;s simply something that has been on my mind, and it&#8217;s not a conversation people are having on the implementation level of social media.  There are the tech bloggers yammering about equity, curation, &amp; attention, but businesses have a way to go before they understand this aspect of Facebook.</p>
<p>This may change&#8230;. FB may cement itself   and people will eventually get used to it as a vast &amp; interactive portal, or it could fall apart under poor management   and lack of acumen in development of the business pages side of the site.  Most Facebook users are still stuck in the concept of a private dialogue   between close friends, where Twitter has evolved into a more interactive real world community.  It is sorely obvious that Pages&#8230;. are&#8230;. yet&#8230;. another&#8230;. slapped together&#8230;. on top of old architecture&#8230;. idea&#8230;. which Facebook threw together because they were worried about losing brands to Twitter&#8217;s opt-in propensity for real commerce.  Pages weren&#8217;t thought out in any real detail, and as these problems begin to mount, FB will need to make some serious choices about how to fix their site.</p>
<p>Until then&#8230;.</p>
<p>This specific issue is why I organize most of  our relevant links into a blog that lists all the information, pics,  stories, etc.  Other than that, I reply to people&#8217;s comments and responses on the page. I post natively whenever possible, for reasons which I will address in a subsequent blog post.</p>
<p>In the end, this is less about Facebook, and more about you and your business page.  We are a captive audience to Facebook&#8217;s shortcomings, and it is a necessary evil for the time being.  In thinking about how you use Facebook Pages for business, you may want to consider the above; especially if you are one of the Pages that continues with a rapid-fire, staccato-like posting of brand mentions, deals, articles, press releases, etc&#8230;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to rethink your eagerness versus effectiveness on Facebook Pages.  Of course, as I write this&#8230; all I can do is wonder about Facebook&#8217;s effectiveness, overall.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This probably should have been multiple posts. Sorry. Google PLACES (or where did my Local Business Center shove off to?) One of my favorite developments in the last few weeks, aside from Google&#8217;s experimentation with populating rates of hotels into it&#8217;s maps, is Google &#8220;Places&#8221;.  The blogosphere is abuzz with gentle, quiet speculation on what [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Google PLACES (or where did my Local Business Center shove off to?)</strong></span></p>
<p>One of my favorite developments in the last few weeks, aside from <a href="http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/03/experiment-to-show-hotel-prices-on.html" target="_blank">Google&#8217;s experimentation with populating rates of hotels into it&#8217;s maps</a>, is Google &#8220;Places&#8221;.  The blogosphere is abuzz with gentle, quiet speculation on what in the heck is going on<span id="more-1049"></span> here.  It&#8217;s obvious repositioning to <a href="http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Cloud-Computing/Google-Places-Vies-for-Local-Search-Share-Versus-Yelp-Twitter-Foursquare-870212/" target="_blank">compete with the likes of Yelp and Foursquare</a>.  But <a href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2010/04/google-renames-local-business-center-now-places/1" target="_blank">Google is rolling some of the features attached to the new name a bit slow</a>, and we will see how it reshapes our mobile experience.  I, for one, really trust Google&#8217;s methodical approach to entering this space&#8230; and when they unroll their entire suite, I think it will challenge Yelp to Expedia and other OTA&#8217;s.  If you can advert with Places in your market&#8230; let me know how it goes!</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">As Google positions, Tripadvisor works to get ads going in the first place</span></strong></p>
<p>Tripadvisor toils in it&#8217;s monetization attempts&#8230; <a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/content/article/first_hotels_now_tourist_boards_-_tripadvisor_to_monetize_traffic/" target="_blank">First  hotels, now tourist boards</a>.  You know how I feel about paying for  your hotel to be listed with information on TA&#8230; DO IT!  Think about  what percentage of your traffic comes from OTA&#8217;s, then start figuring  out depending on your market and rank on TA how much of that traffic  jumps to Expedia or others straight from Tripadvisor.  That 25% markup  those OTA&#8217;s are stealing from you will come back, and likely quickly pay  for the Tripadvisor listing fee.  It&#8217;s a smart move, and a cheap  experiment.</p>
<p>Something else that might be a costly experiment in regards to Tripadvisor is losing you reservations to Expedia, and hurting your SEO.  Tripadvisor badges or widgets that aren&#8217;t actively blocking search engines are likely bad for business.  I posted (the below) article about how it hurts your hotel site&#8217;s SEO, but bolsters Tripadvisor&#8217;s.  What I didn&#8217;t realize was this &#8211; if people link from your website and booking engine to Tripadvisor via that widget &#8211; and like what they see on Tripadvisor &#8211; they are usually sent to EXPEDIA to book their room.  You just linked your guest to a page that will make you pay a 25% commission.  I don&#8217;t have all the answers, but <a href="http://www.thatagency.com/design-studio-blog/2010/03/why-hotels-should-stop-using-tripadvisors-rating-widget/" target="_blank">in the comments section of *THIS ARTICLE*</a>, the gent describes a fancy way to blind the widget.  I have also seen hotel sites that simply copy and paste the review from Tripadvisor or Yelp into different parts of their website &#8211; thus stuffing a page full of relevant keywords that can also help the guest decide to book&#8230; while continually mingling with your booking engine the whole time, never chancing lost control of your inventory.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">MORE SOCIAL TOOLS, INFO, &amp; Tech Talk</span></strong></p>
<p><a href="http://mashable.com/2010/04/20/twitter-for-business/" target="_blank">Unique and  fairly intelligent ways to leverage twitter</a>&#8230; a non hotel article  to get you thinking about what twitter is, and how you can leverage it  to benefit your property.</p>
<p>A brief link, but a good question &#8211; <a href="http://blog.vfmleonardo.com/are-there-any-standards-for-hotel-videos-should-we-hire-actors-or-use-our-own-staff/" target="_blank">who do you use for hotel videos? Hired actors? Regular  line staff?</a> It&#8217;s important to consider how you want to represent  your hotel, and how people will receive the information.  Honestly, I  think the manipulated, high gloss marketing message is in shambles, and  when it looks too slick, people will immediately not trust it or find it  disingenuous.   Whatever the case, this is all about having a plan and  understanding as you tackle new media&#8230;. if you don&#8217;t these things come  out of left field and surprise you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/article/design_hotels_launches_facebook_booking_engine/" target="_blank">Design Hotels launches a Facebook Booking Engine</a>&#8230;.  (call it an F.B.E. for short!).  This will, once and for all, solve the  problem of wondering whether people are on Facebook to proselytize and  chatter about brands as a showy display of feathers (I LIKE THIS BRAND!  It means I am AWESOME!), or is it a place to commune, share, and  ultimately &#8211; BOOK?  Just checking it out, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/DesignHotelsAG" target="_blank">it  seems fairly confusing</a>.  I enter my dates, and then I mysteriously  land on an unassociated page without it transmitting the choices I  made.  Seems like FB booking has a way to go.</p>
<p>I for one am a) sick of hearing about  the IPAD, b) sick about the marketing reinventing history as if Apple  invented the tablet, and c) sick of hearing about all the giddy fanboys  trying to adopt slick but inherently flawed tech as nothing more than a  marketing gimmick.  HOWEVER&#8230;. this article, <a href="http://www.hotelnewsnow.com/Articles.aspx?ArticleId=3138&amp;ArticleType=35&amp;PageType=News" target="_blank">IPAD:  Hotel Hype, or Help?</a>,  says it is making Intercontinental&#8217;s  concierge more personable &amp; functional (<a href="http://point2agentblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/spock-ipad1.jpg" target="_blank">not  to mention cool like they are from Star Trek</a>), and it isn&#8217;t just  hype.  I know the tablet will be the future or consumers and content  ingestors&#8230;. but I just think we are a bit of a way off from it being  functional for content generators.  This is simply a machine to  advertise to consumers, no more, no less.  Playing a game or reading the  paper is incidental.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">HOTEL TALK!</span></strong></p>
<p>RevPar laws basically state &#8211; Trading Rate for Occupancy isn&#8217;t that smart of a move (Labor, among other operating costs, rise significantly, and the added dollars don&#8217;t always even out on the bottom line).  So why is the &#8220;Name your own price&#8221; phenomena rearing it&#8217;s ugly head?  <a href="http://connect.phocuswright.com/2010/04/name-your-own-price-is-this-hotel-revenue-management/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ThePhocuswrightBlog+%28The+PhoCusWright+Blog%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader">Phocuswright tries to explain here.</a></p>
<p>Not to mention&#8230; most of us still think it is <a href="http://www.searchamelia.com/2010/04/02/act-now-and-you-get-a-two-for-one/" target="_blank">perceived value that has a big part in selling hotels</a>&#8230; and not handing back money to someone who would have paid the higher rate you just tanked, anyway.</p>
<p>Do you think modern marketing for hospitality is at a crossroads?  I do.  But then again, <a href="http://www.dontdrinkthekoolaidblog.com/customer-service-hotel-marketing/comment-page-1/http://www.dontdrinkthekoolaidblog.com/customer-service-hotel-marketing/comment-page-1/http://www.dontdrinkthekoolaidblog.com/customer-service-hotel-marketing/comment-page-1/http://www.dontdrinkthekoolaidblog.com/customer-service-hotel-marketing/comment-page-1/" target="_blank">maybe I think the doormen are more about the hallmark of our industry &#8211; hospitable, friendly customer service &#8211; than marketing</a>.  When marketers start calling normal operations &#8220;marketing&#8221;, you know they are scrambling to make sense of the confusing new world of social media.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">TIG shares their wealth of knowledge with hoteliers, and more!</span></strong></p>
<p>TIG releases more reports, further exemplifying why people want to work with Thayer.  Wow. <a href="http://www.tigglobal.com/dmobestpractices/" target="_blank"> The reports are on Microsites, Mobile, &amp; Apps, as well as a 2 part on Social Media &amp; the DMO Marketer.</a> Double Wow equals video leveraging of insider&#8217;s tips&#8230;. <a href="http://www.hotel-blogs.com/guillaume_thevenot/2010/04/tig-global-explains-in-videos.html" target="_blank">Quick, simple, instructional videos from TIG on internet marketing, hotel SEO, and more</a>!  If you ever have the budget to work with these guys, there is only one answer about whether you should&#8230;. YES. You should.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>MOBILE IS A POINT OF SALE, but remember it isn&#8217;t all or nothing!</strong></span></p>
<p>This one is a slam dunk, because <a href="http://www.hotelnewsresource.com/article44803Location_Based_Mobil_Marketing_Good_News_for_the_Hospitality_Industry.html" target="_blank">Mobile Marketing is Good News for Hotels!</a> Beyond that article, what you really want are actual tips &#8211; not just on energizing your comprehension of  mobile marketing &#8211; but getting into it and doing it right.  Some have deemed it the &#8220;new point of sale&#8221; &#8211; and Mashable helps you figure out how to work with it.   Mashable is sometimes a bit vacuous with mindless social media  fandom&#8230;. but these <a href="http://mashable.com/2010/03/15/location-based-marketing/" target="_blank">*9 tips  about location based marketing*</a> are winners.  If you need some help finding the business page in Foursquare.. well..<a href="http://foursquare.com/businesses/" target="_blank"> it&#8217;s right here</a>.  If you are trying to figure out more, and it&#8217;s over your head&#8230; you might want to consider <a href="http://events.eyefortravel.com/online-marketing/agenda.asp" target="_blank">EYE FOR TRAVEL&#8217;s conference on Mobile in Travel &amp; Hospitality</a> in London, early June. I linked the agenda back there, and if it doesn&#8217;t get you excited about the potential of mobile (or kinetic energy at this point), nothing will.  Social Mobile is the ROI everyone has been salivating for.  Pay attention to it.</p>
<p>But remember&#8230; <a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/content/article/while_mobile_hotel_bookings_surge_traditional_channels_hold_their_own/" target="_blank">as  mobile burgeons, traditional channels still provide results</a>.  Not only do those channels hold tight, so does email marketing (something Hotel Marketing Strategies has been a big supporter of)&#8230; as you can see with some<a href="http://www.hotelmarketingstrategies.com/3-surprising-email-charts/" target="_blank"> surprising information he put together on a recent post</a>.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">COFFEE TALK, or *PHEW* I am sort of getting overwhelmed because I am a hotelier, not a tech guru or social geek!</span></strong></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important to take all these rapid changes with gentle aplomb, some furrowed brows, but a lot of thoughtful shoulder shrugging too.  It&#8217;s important to be a fence sitter sometimes&#8230; accumulate as much data as possible before making any decision.  I am not saying delaying action, but I am suggesting to be thoughtful.  Don&#8217;t automatically become a convert to this new world, because no one really understands it yet.  *NO ONE*.  I think Dick Feynman (a hero of mine) could have said it best:</p>
<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=DGiw7rxQLwwC&amp;pg=PA100&amp;lpg=PA100&amp;dq=any+organization+feynman+fence+sitter&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=vBAcyxcpyX&amp;sig=r24g348SwwZ8-HoowskjPiFrscI&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=xZ_QS5vCHYrStgOm45zFCQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false" target="_blank">&#8220;in any organization there ought to be the possibility of discussion&#8230; fence sitting is an art, and it&#8217;s difficult, and it&#8217;s important to do, rather than to go headlong in one direction or the other. It&#8217;s just better to have action, isn&#8217;t it than to sit on the fence? Not if you&#8217;re not sure which way to go, it isn&#8217;t.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Everyone expected <a href="http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15108618&amp;source=login_payBarrier" target="_blank">the telegraph to kill newspapers</a> (you need to be a paid Economist subscriber to read that fantastic article), the TV to kill the radio, social media to kill traditional methods of marketing&#8230; but we all know that &#8220;sky is falling&#8221; nonsense is just about capturing attention to headlines, and the future will be a mish mash of everything.  Don&#8217;t panic&#8230;. just try to comprehend.  And if you still need a basic review of how to engage in social media, <a href="http://www.marketingtimes.com/2010/04/more-best-practices-for-your-hotel-in-social-media/" target="_blank">here is a fairly competent and quick article about how to do it well</a>.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><br />
</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">BUT THAT&#8217;S JUST CONSERVATIVE HESITATION, because the future is now&#8230;.</span></strong></p>
<p>That warning being said, here&#8217;s something that I call jaw dropping, and possibly a slight peak at the future of a semantic web (as they keep saying.  It&#8217;s the new &#8220;mobile is here! 2006, Mobile is here 2007, mobile is here.. maybe 2008, mobile is coming&#8230; 2009, MOBILE IS TOTALLY FREAKING HERE 2010!) -</p>
<p>SPEED MATTERS&#8230;. This is where the start of today&#8217;s post gets  somewhat scary.  Did you just finish a website re-design, or pump  endless cash for years into internet marketing branding and design?   Well&#8230; those flash laden pages that are pretty when they finally do  load are a drain on your Google ranking&#8230; and your SEO suffers the more  bulky or content laden your sites are.  <a href="http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2010/04/using-site-speed-in-web-search-ranking.html" target="_blank">GOOGLE  ANNOUNCES SPEED IS NOW TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN REGARDS TO INDEXING.</a> In fact, <a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/content/article/google_search_ranking_now_takes_site_speed_into_account/" target="_blank">Hotelmarketing.com  has a good suggestion</a>&#8230; if you use flash, you might want to take a  peak at your own speed&#8230;. and see where you stand.</p>
<p>Which leads us to Adtech SF, and some interesting tweets that I am commenting on in regards to the concept of the dying brand website.</p>
<p>Apparently the brand website is dead (or committed to an iron lung), and <a href="http://twitter.com/HMarketingHelp/status/12593787758" target="_blank">you don&#8217;t need it anymore</a>.</p>
<p>At a fairly important conference  about the advertising &amp; the internet, they basically said that a  brand&#8217;s website is dead.  They are  dealing with some fairly complex issues of sustainability for business  in online competition, coupled with the need to have accessibility to  how your brand exists online.  I am extrapolating off the conversation I heard, but it&#8217;s basically the following:</p>
<p>Basically, a website should be for a booking engine, and directions,  but anything else might not work, especially as google is starting to  improve rankings based off of load time and speed of website.  The idea  is that the way the internet is headed into a more communal area where  it is about niches of relevant interests, and it will be nearly  impossible to leverage a small brand website versus all the community  based chatter in regards to certain topics.  In addition to this, it isn&#8217;t in the best interest of ANY of these communities to lose the potential power of consumer dollars spent through their portal, so why should they happily direct people to you in the first place?  In this, your website is moot because everyone is forming their opinions in conversations with user  generated pictures, stories, etc.  The way search is changing, even  booking engines will exist within social platforms (IE Facebook), and  people will slowly stop visiting your site, and ultimately, no one will  be going to them all together.  Also&#8230; the SEO era is moving into a  &#8220;semantic&#8221; era where search engines will be reading user generated  photos and videos, whether they are tagged or not -</p>
<p>Meaning there is *your* contribution.. a couple expensive photos, an  expensive site &#8211; but the internet community members with keywords and  chatter alone will overwhelm any input you have.  You won&#8217;t be able to  compete with the niche communities that are actively owning *your* brand, vs making your site  relevant or even noticeable in return.  Therefore, your site will be less relevant, be pushed down overall, and even the anciengt codger who won&#8217;t give up the old fashioned way of booking through the hotel&#8217;s site &#8211; well &#8211; it&#8217;s going to be even harder to find.</p>
<p>Scary stuff.  And not that far  off.  It&#8217;s fairly interesting too, but&#8230;..</p>
<p>Time for me to retire. haha.</p>
<p>No &#8211; seriously.  Anyone have an island they could lend?</p>
<p>If those well researched and thoughtful representations of how things will be changing isn&#8217;t far enough in the future, let&#8217;s move a decade down the road&#8230; to 2012 (haha).  These sanguine and cogent predictions aren&#8217;t the typical crazy, wide eyed guru&#8217;s ramblings.  These are smart&#8230; and likely.  <a href="http://www.marketingtimes.com/2010/04/11-predictions-for-social-media-in-2012/" target="_blank">Marketing Times has 11 Predictions for social media in 2012</a>&#8230; and they might interest you.</p>
<p>It sure as hell interests me.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I imagine this is one of the first mash ups of a live-twittered conference?  If not the first, one of the only ones because this was massively, overly, insanely, time-consuming.  I do think what came of it was worthwhile, and I hope this sort of serves as a testament to all we spoke about and considered during Eye for Travel SM SF 2010.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: small;">I imagine this is one of the first mash ups of a live-twittered conference?  If not the first, one of the only ones because this was massively, overly, insanely, time-consuming.  I do think what came of it was worthwhile, and I hope this sort of serves as a testament to all we spoke about and considered during <a href="http://events.eyefortravel.com/social-media/" target="_blank">Eye for Travel SM SF 2010</a>.  First thing: I am not going to list contributor names here &#8211; I assume this is mostly for those who <span id="more-1028"></span>attended, and we know who we are.  However, Susan Black was going to compile a list of everyone involved in the conference for further networking, and think we might be able to do that here?  Please comment and leave your info for people to connect with&#8230;. twitter, buzz, and anything else you wish to share about the conference. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The below words are basically a mashup of every single tweet (processed &amp; filtered) from the #smtravel conference (blended with my commentary in the parentheses).   I arranged the information best I could, however *completely* subjective said arrangement is.  I hope it makes some form of sense &#8211; or at least you can potentially peer into the chasm that is my logic.  At the least I hope I didn&#8217;t misquote or misrepresent anyone.  Speaking of transparency &#8211; I left some fairly meaty and helpful implementation/action ideas at the end that were not necessarily even part of the conference&#8230; I figure if you can find them and actually read that far down, well.. you deserve them. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I will go out on a limb saying that 100% of the data is accurate, because I basically copy and pasted from the tweet stream.  I am sad to say the nature of making the &#8220;tweety casserole&#8221; of our conference helped it to lose much in the reference &amp; citations arena, but if you need to see the authority and professionalism of those involved, please refer to <a href="http://events.eyefortravel.com/social-media/speakers.asp" target="_blank">list of speakers at the conference</a>.  For those that don&#8217;t know me &#8211; I am a big skeptic, and vigilant about data and non skewed statistics, as well as generally skeptical about enthusiastic marketing. If anyone would like to challenge any of the information or data below, please do!  I am always up for conversation and learning&#8230;. and if incorrect data was given out at this conference I assume we would all like to know (this is highly unlikely)!  So let&#8217;s have at it &#8211;  <a href="http://events.eyefortravel.com/social-media/" target="_blank">Eye For Travel&#8217;s Social Media Conference #smtravel 2010</a>!  (Boy I hope this makes sense)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">My attempt at organizing the concepts throughout the conference:<br />
</span></p>
<ol>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media (general)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Facebook</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Geolocation / Mobile / Augmented Reality<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">ROI</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">User Generated Reviews / Content</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Takeaway / Important Thoughts<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Action / Implementation</span></li>
</ol>
<p>You will note a lot of information on Geolocation/Mobile &amp; User Generated Reviews/Content.  I think that&#8217;s because there is real data, opportunity, and engagement in those areas.  The other areas are more guesswork and hoping.  Twitter provides ROI, to be sure&#8230; but I think we should focus on what provides results, vs. what we like to think *may* work.  In that, I personally suggest you alot some of your Facebook time to understanding and interacting with Geolocation, as well as becoming more involved in the review sites.</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="font-size: large;">I) Social Media</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats</span></span>:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">83% of adults use social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">70% of participants in Social Media are spectators (lurkers &#8211; we know you are out there eating our posts)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">18% of US online leisure travelers do not have a destination in mind when they start their trip planning</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">For every 1/2 sec improvement in landing page download speed, you can increase page views 1-3% (I know.. this is SEOweb design. Sue me)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">58% of travelers use Facebook monthly, 40% use YouTube, 32% to Wikipedia, but 1 in 4 don&#8217;t visit any social media sites (this is in tune with understanding traditional marketing vital, still important, and should be integrated and aware of SM plan)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Email marketing still important but not as effective as it used to be. (I don&#8217;t think I need a stat for that, but 1) it still seems to be effective for some people &amp; 2) it&#8217;s amazing how others simply won&#8217;t let it go when it is no longer effective. It used to be a cure all salve to some marketers)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consumers follow and fan brands on FB and Twitter to learn about discounts (32%). Learn about new products (19%)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">35 Million LinkedIn updates/week, 600 tweets per second, 5 billion pieces of facebook content a week</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">An angry customer can lose you more customers than a happy customer can bring you new ones</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social networking is the new &#8220;morning coffee&#8221; &#8211; 4 in 10 people wake up to their social circles</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">4 in 10 people recommend products on social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">eMarketer reports 81% of marketers say social media significantly extends their e-mail to new markets</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary/Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You can choose not to participate in social media conversation but&#8230;.. that is *probably* not a good thing.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Most social media /generated content is crap.  (This reminded me of a very relevant talk by Google CEO Schmidt, and the resulting piece <a href="http://ow.ly/1qqLb" target="_blank">The Cesspool We Call The Internet</a>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is about relinquishing control</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media/user generated content is the new brochure, and you have no say in how that brochure is made or what it looks like (I like the sentiment but mildly disagree&#8230; I think you be accountable of everything in your control and offer a worthwhile product and the brochure will be to your liking).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Transparency is not for the faint of heart, and it may not work for everyone.  When people get an update, they want more on a regular basis.  (IMHO, It doesn&#8217;t just happen, you have to fight culture of secrecy that most business cultivates).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Top 5 trends in Web 2.0 &#8211; </span><span style="font-size: small;">1) Semantic Web 2) SMO (social media optimization) 3) SGO (social graph optimization) 4) Affinity Graph (feel free to elaborate on this one) 5) HyperLocal</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It is about the quality, not quantity, of followers. 500 committed followers is worth 10,000 non brand interested ones (what sort of followers do contests breed?)<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Soc Media is a communication TOOL &#8211; not a PLATFORM &#8211; &#8220;do you ask for ROI on your telephone?&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media is not a campaign, it&#8217;s a commitment.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">How do you measure the value of a relationship? Lifetime value = more than the sum of transactions.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s amplified word of mouth, right? It&#8217;s been happening for years. It&#8217;s about creating community again &#8211; SM just a new channel for old-fashioned business sense.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media let&#8217;s your customers do the talking for you.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media shares elements w/journalism: Who, what, where, why, how. Formula for getting the full story on a subject.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">World has moved form 6 degrees of separation to 2 thanks to social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Conversation about your brand will happen without you being aware or taking part&#8230;. you might as well listen.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Whoever earns trust, wins</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">SOCIAL MEDIA DOES NOT EQUAL DIGITAL MARKETING &#8211; Social Media is 2 way communication (interactivity, conversation, dynamic growth), marketing is one way communication (forced/push marketing, print, billboards)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Good social media is about the 4 E&#8217;s: Educate, Excite, Engage and Evangelize.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Monitor, Engage, Respond.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Have a clear plan &#8211; where do you fit and how can you add value to your guests and social media. But you have to be prepared to manage the conversation.  It&#8217;s not a campaign, it&#8217;s a commitment.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Bake social media DNA into everyone in the organization</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You wouldn&#8217;t put someone behind the front desk without training. Don&#8217;t put someone in social media without training</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Guest services should respond to social media just like email or phone calls.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Real time recovery is vital to hospitality&#8217;s use of &amp; engagement w/social media &#8211; the internet is fast and speed is key.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s not about you the brand, it&#8217;s about them &#8211; about being available &amp; listening</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Non participation is akin to ignoring customers &#8211; a lost opportunity to engage, learn and make amends.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social should live across departments like PR, cust svc, marketing, etc. It becomes &#8220;something everyone does&#8221; like email.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You can become pen pals with some of your customers thru social media. good way to build relationships, brand ambassadors (time consuming)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Using persona&#8217;s to identify your average customers is useful &#8211; but be real, be earnest, be transparent, and have fun.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Utilize effective management to maintain productivity, instead of limiting massively effective tools for business (social media being banned in the workplace)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media can be a very powerful recruiting tool</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Use analytics &amp; monitoring tools: Omniture, Cision, ReviewAnalyst, eBuzz, Revinate, Radian6</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media should be fun with the appropriate tone of conversation.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Manage Social Media both from corporate and property level &#8211; &#8220;Speak in the tone of the medium&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Blogs bring value to SEO efforts</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Best ideas are often driven from the bottom up. Always listen to your front line people!</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Experimentation is the key to social media success. Fail cheap, fail fast.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is not free. Someone has to own, monitor, track, analyze etc.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The Return is on customer engagement, and ROI may take some time.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="font-size: large;">II. Facebook</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">100 million people now using Facebook mobile app at least once a month (how many are exploring brand pages?).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">56% users check Facebook each day</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">48% of people talk about products on Facebook</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">5 billion posts of content from Facebook per week</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary/Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;Facebook will remain relevant because of its privacy controls&#8221; (- My rant: </span><span style="font-size: small;">I wholeheartedly disagree &#8211; twitter inherently allows the user to opt out of privacy, so the user is quite aware of what they are entering into.  Buzz is similar in this respect.  Conversely, Flickr VIGOROUSLY champions the right of privacy &amp; ownership, so does Tribe.net.  Facebook is constantly altering their architecture so as to potentially generate constant cash flow.  These attempts at creation of revenue wholly disregard the individual users&#8217; privacy &amp; bungles the process constantly, while adding layers to a flawed structure/network that is based off of non-meaningful geo-connections.  Connections, of course, should include *immediate* social circles, but the strongest connections are based off interest, not educational institution &#8211; which pits classmates across broad socioeconomic and political backgrounds into similar social circles.  The preceding line is precisely why Facebook *could* eventually fail. The sky is not falling, and the landscape is changing constantly&#8230; but until Facebook figures this out, their dominance is tenuous.  You cannot create a solid network based off of &#8220;loose interests&#8221;.  Topics/Subject matter drive content creation, and content creation drives social networks.  There can be no meaningful brand interaction in &#8220;loose interest&#8221; networks &#8211; there is limited opportunity to get the network effect started around brands if one user who likes you suggests your brand to a user completely foreign to it&#8217;s necessity or disinterested in it&#8217;s existence).<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">I voice constant concern about Facebook &#8211; is the conversation meaningful? Do they book?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Facebook pages for brands as a &#8220;fad&#8221; was brought up, many disagreed with the concept.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Instead of attempting to create a new social network, connect with an existing one:  FB connect picks up that slack &#8211; interactivity is at leisure of user. Facebook connect allows published content and comments on both your website and Facebook. Helps build engagement in both places.  Travelmuse received a 30% increase in membership from using Facebook Connect. One of the best ideas was this &#8211; &#8220;It&#8217;s easier to buy access to someone else&#8217;s audience than to try to build up your own in order to market to them&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Add a booking widget, customize the tabs and cross-integrate your Social Media channels (connect but do not auto-post &#8211; remain native)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Tag FB pages w/Omniture(Analytic) tags to help measure ROI</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;<a href="http://bit.ly/8YtjE7" target="_blank">5 Essential Apps for Your Business’s Facebook Page</a>&#8221; </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Competitors&#8217;  followers should be at the top of your list of who to find &amp; target</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The Facebook ads that work best to grow a fan base show the user their &#8220;friends&#8221; that are fans, and has a &#8220;Become A Fan button&#8221; on it.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">FB doesn&#8217;t always grab people not coming to your hotel, so it is often better used locally.  FB pages work GREAT for F&amp;B, spa (incremental revenue).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">FB apps can best be seen as complimenting a good FB marketing campaign instead of the center of it</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">(I just started realizing the mapped network of facebook pages creates a tighter community online if you connect &#8211; try to get as many local businesses to highlight your page, and vice versa.  Creates a stronger local presence overall.)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Create &#8220;status questions&#8221; (what are you doing today?) so you can check engagement and how often guests interact/check-in with you.<br />
</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>III) Twitter</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Michael Perhaes with MGM Grand said Twitter is 5x more effective than email for us, &amp; GM Grand&#8217;s Twitter customers have higher ADR than email customers (someone suggested this as savvy, but honestly I would imagine a savvy consumer to find a lower price?)</span></li>
<li>600 tweets  per second</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Commentary/Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If you&#8217;re going to make money, Twitter must become a transactional platform at some point</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter is the new flight attendant call button</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter drives revenue, no doubt about it.  Twitter = ROI, Facebook = idle brand chit chat.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Young kids don&#8217;t trust it, and think it&#8217;s for old people or fame seekers</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter is not a direct marketing platform</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter can be used as an R&amp;D tool</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Uses &#8220;extended&#8221; shelf space by having multiple twitter accounts to represent brand :chef pages, nightclubs, hotel, spa, etc.  Multiple Twitter accounts for multiple audiences</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consider integration with API to expose what is tweeted about your brand (like highlighting reviews, it does suggest letting go of message)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Even if you do have a group of people working on social media, don&#8217;t forget to tweet (fb/blog) with personality &#8211; be a real human voice &amp; be real &#8211; but be transparent, be consistent,</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Separate conversation &#8211; promotions, customer service, etc should be separate Twitter accounts so as not to confuse (this is debatable depending on your brand)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">competitors&#8217;  followers should be at the top of your list</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>IV) Geolocation / Mobile<br />
</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Google estimates 50% of web traffic to come thru mobile devices w/in 5 years (if that doesn&#8217;t blow your mind, re-read it slowly, twice).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">240 million people mobile browsers in 2010, surpassing PCs for first time</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">100 million people now using Facebook mobile app at least once a month</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">According to a recent comScore report, 30.8% of smartphone users accessed social networking sites via their mobile browser in January 2010, up 8.3 points from 22.5% one year ago.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Access to Facebook via mobile browser grew 112% in the past year, while Twitter experienced a 347% jump.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">1 in 3 mobile search queries have local intent</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Mobile Shopping to balloon to $119 Billion by 2015</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Morgans Hotels tagged NYC airport codes on Foursquare during recent blizzards, ran ads, &amp; generated some sales.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Are iPhone apps a &#8220;flavor of the month&#8221;? Or should you just develop a good mobile-optimized Web site?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Geolocation tools like Foursquare mark a significant shift in social-real time interaction &#8211; it&#8217;s valid, useful information<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">hyper local = search + social graph + mobile + your location</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Impressive: Morgans Hotel leverages themed twitter hashtags, 4Sq hotel checkins, Artist Generated Content and analytics tools</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Location-based marketing will be a trend. &#8220;It&#8217;s clearly good.&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Adding hotel rates to Google search results enhances relevancy of listing &#8211; mobile access &amp; booking to skyrocket.  One thing, however, is that rates in Google maps is customer friendly, but maybe not so great for suppliers (link to maps blog post here: http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/03/experiment-to-show-hotel-prices-on.html)</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Best Practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You got me.  I think, again, I defer to Del Ross from ICH &#8211; &#8220;Experimentation is the key to social media success. Fail cheap, fail fast.&#8221;  But frankly, FOCUS ON IT. I would be willing to bet my name that it&#8217;s worth limiting some Facebook time to interacting with Foursquare.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: large;">V) ROI:</span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">What we are after (and trying to define)! *or* &#8220;No clear, easy way to track back social media ROI&#8221; says panel, &#8220;An attribution model has yet to be developed.&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Forrester Research says it is a way to enhance relationships with customers, build brand, help hiring &amp; recruitment, engage in customer service, and helps to build employee morale.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If social media goals are not clearly communicated, how do u know what &#8220;good&#8221; looks like?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If you aren&#8217;t paying attention to conversation about your brand, who is? A different ROI &#8211; Return on Ignorance</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Interesting perspective on generating demand vs conversion in social media. Examples: FB = demand, Yelp = conversion</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Will virtual cash become taxable? (It apparently already is, in some places.)</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is not free. Someone has to own, monitor, track, analyze etc. It is ROCS &#8211; a return on customer satisfaction in early stages</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Measurement involves many different goals, not just sales.  Overall revenue, room nights (Hilton&#8217;s ROI measurement) are just two of them.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Southwest measures SM ROI by: employee satisfaction; ratio of cust compliments to complaints; new signups; conversions.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">VI) User Generated Reviews / Content</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Their data shows that people believe online strangers to friends and family in regards to reviews, user generated content. Expedia</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Travelers search 20 different sites when planning a trip</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">44% of online travelers trust other travelers before commercial advertising</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">32% of Yelp reviews are 5-stars. Only 15% are 1- or 2-stars</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">TripAdvisor has 32 million reviews and gets 16 new contributions every minute.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">TripAdvisor gives less weight to older reviews than newer in terms of ranking</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Content submitted to TripAdvisor at its start 10 years ago is still on the site. There are no plans to remove those.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Management response to critical reviews more important than review content according to Tripadvisor research</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">TripAdvisor says an average traveler reads about 30 reviews</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Only 4% of hotels respond to tripadvisor reviews</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">By being confident, taking ownership, &amp; being enthusiastic, authors have altered or taken bad reviews.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Immediacy of customer feedback on mobile posed to change how companies use social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Online Reviews allow satisfied customers play &#8220;ambassadors&#8221; of your business</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Negative reviews play an important role too, you can&#8217;t please 100% of the people 100% of the time</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">it&#8217;s better to join the conversation than not. Reviews can go from 3 to 5 stars because of this</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Practices</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Be humble, be swift, be specific &#8211; How a hotel property responds to criticism says more about them than the criticism itself</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">By replying to reviews, you humanize the brand &#8211; it&#8217;s less of a place to complain &amp; more about commerce</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Every negative comment is an opportunity to turn around the relationship, and create a long term brand centric consumer.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Bad reviews are exciting to highlight, celebrate, and learn from. Great marketing opportunity. Your reaction is vital.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">responding is never a knee jerk reaction #smtravel they take a LOT of thought, editing attention.  Good impulse control &#8211; required quality for persons chosen to respond to customer comments on social media</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="font-size: large;">VII) Takeaway &amp; Important Thoughts</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Stats/&#8221;Subjective Facts&#8221; <img src='http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   :</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is about relinquishing control</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Google estimates 50% of web traffic to come through mobile devices w/in 5 years</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Investing money in search visibility reduces need to spend money elsewhere.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If anyone says they are a social media expert, they are lying to you.  We are all learning and failing constantly.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">For every 1/2 sec improvement in landing page download speed, you can increase page views 1-3% (content heavy, uber-marketed sites are going bye bye)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">User Generated Content (UGC) is the 21st century&#8217;s word of mouth, and your new brochure &#8211; and you&#8217;re not the one writing it.  your customers are your new copywriters (Jennifer Davies, Expedia)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Virgin will soon have 3 FTE people handling SM. Hilton has 1. Southwest has 6.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The new big three in travel = Brazil, China, and India. New travel up 50% in recent years.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">People under 30 use email only to talk to you if you are over 30, or to talk to brands/companies (suggests the data&#8230; there are exceptions to these facts)<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media matters, but does not replace traditional channels. One in four travelers are not on social networks</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">People want to connect, people want to share: this is what drives social media growth</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Ignoring social media today is like ignoring Google in 1999.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Customers no longer search for news &amp; deals &#8212; they want the deals to find them</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s a conversation, not a broadcast. Be authentic, honest, transparent.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Think about shaping conversation, not controlling it</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">When social media relationships become &#8220;real&#8221; they become private &amp; go offline</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media is most powerful when integrated directly with the product</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Work with your competitors to create a &#8220;trend&#8221; for media coverage</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is not a &#8220;nice to have&#8221; anymore. It now must be a part of an integrated marketing strategy (but it isn&#8217;t just marketing, and it isn&#8217;t just a strategy)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s easier to buy access to someone else&#8217;s audience than to try to build up your own in order to market to them</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consumers want you to engage with them in social media, but only when and where they want to hear from you.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Not sure contests are meaningful so much as getting endless non brand centric people following you for free &#8220;stuff&#8221;. Free stuff followers are not as useful as brand followers.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;Social Media builds employee morale&#8221; was a concept that came up a couple times during the conference.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You don&#8217;t market what you want to say. You market what your customers want to hear.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social operates on a shoestring at most brands &#8211; requires empowerment, education and training to succeed</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Not all social media programs are the same.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s important not to isolate social media for the organization; you need to immerse your business in it. It&#8217;s everyone&#8217;s job&#8230;. it shouldn&#8217;t be just one person.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Make conscious choice for structure &#8211; do not do the easy thing and lump it with PR or Marketing</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Use everything as an opportunity for learning &#8211; Don&#8217;t overreact to customer comments</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Flickr, YouTube good social media for hotels to use for customer engagement. Visual content very importnat for hotels (and has SEO value too)<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Leverage existing social networks and influencers &#8211; go to existing communities instead of wasting time and money building one (Facebook Connect, for example, expanding between brand site and &#8220;vibrant&#8221; community).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consider a dedicated page on your website for social media &#8211; Hard Rock Hotel has one full page dedicated to all social media &amp; review sites.  To shatter industry benchmarks, it&#8217;s essential to bake your SM strategy into your site.  Consider your market &#8211; go to where they are and engage them. Morgans Hotels has whole website section dedicated to music</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Employees can take brand message, localize it, and put their personality behind it. &#8211; participation FUN for employees! Don&#8217;t just throw a bunch of rules at them.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The days of content heavy &amp; marketed website are changing &#8211; they go to review sites and then go to the hotel site for booking.  Consumers don&#8217;t trust pretty, over the top, content laden sites.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">By utilizing closed loop promotions you maintain parity with OTA’s.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">VIII) HHOTELCONSULT&#8217;S Action / Implementation</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">For FB: </span></span></p>
<ul>
<li>Add  booking widget, customize the tabs and cross-integrate your social media channels.</li>
<li>Add  analytics tracking wherever you can to gauge success in raw data form</li>
<li>virtual  gifts/money (First 10 to post get a comp glass of wine, and then after posts say the deal is the free glass has to be for a close friend&#8230; be tricky, have fun, get creative)</li>
<li>Leverage  Facebook Connect when possible.</li>
<li>allow  management to post changes, updates, pics</li>
<li>Birthday  related offer?</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For Twitter</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li>compartmentalize  social media campaign by having smaller departments reach out &#8211;  multiple twitter accounts across all hotels for different reasons &#8211; chef, F&amp;B, sales/banquets, spa (whichever works or would be viable)</li>
<li>add  analytics tracking</li>
<li>integrate/allow  management to post changes, updates, pics</li>
<li>Reached  out to influencers at smaller groups &#8211; 500-700% ROI from inviting  &#8220;influentials&#8221; to a tasting</li>
<li>Twestival?</li>
<li>Birthday  related offers?</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For Geolocation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Research about Gowalla, Twhrrl, others we can possibly interact with?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Create Foursquare Mayoral Advisory Board</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Foursquare deals/offers</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Flash mob or Swarm Badge opportunity?<br />
</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Website</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">local tweet map on site mashing up tweets with brand mentions, associated conversations<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">have one dedicated social media page per hotel</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If you offer discounts, info, events, etc online, make them &#8220;Facebookable&#8221; and &#8220;Twitterable&#8221;</span></li>
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<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Misc:</span></span></p>
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<li><span style="font-size: small;">Be creative &#8211; Morgan&#8217;s printed QR codes on cocktail napkins</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">showing OK Go on YouTube $100,000 spend to sponsor video &#8211; less than 3 weeks 10 million views on YouTube. Press exposure</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Fairmont launched dedicated Presidents Club forum on FlyerTalk in July &#8217;09. Now has 412 threads; page views &gt;200,000</span></li>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Follow Up Questions (endless, frankly &#8211; and I WANT TO HEAR YOURS! What didn&#8217;t we talk about that you wanted to talk about?):</span></span></p>
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<li><span style="font-size: small;">I would like to chat more about HOW, &amp; not WHAT: how to integrate API&#8217;s, how to interact w/mobile-geolocation, how to implement facebook connect, etc. Check out mobile hotel app &#8211; Smart Stay<br />
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<li><span style="font-size: small;">Contact morgans about themed hashtags &#8211; Morgans Hotels tagged NYC airport codes on Foursquare during recent blizzards, ran ads, &amp; generated some sales.<br />
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<li><span style="font-size: small;">Live streaming video &amp; webcam opportunities?<br />
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<li><span style="font-size: small;">Is creating a list of your hotel&#8217;s followers on twitter necessary?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">How do you use FB connect for one small hotel?</span></li>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cheers and good day! Your friendly neighborhood Hotelier trying to stay on top of hotel news, and travel info, and hospitality &#38; management philosophy&#8230; oh yeah&#8230; and technology or social media.  Okay okay&#8230; I am apparently trying to keep you updated on everything, and here is a little more from my corner of the internet&#8230;. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers and good day! Your friendly neighborhood Hotelier trying to stay on top of hotel news, and travel info, and hospitality &amp; management philosophy&#8230; oh yeah&#8230; and technology or social media.  Okay okay&#8230; I am apparently trying to keep you updated on everything, and here is a little more from my corner of the internet&#8230;. endless relevant information filtered into a relatively decadent lunch sized chunk.  Enjoy!  Don&#8217;t hesitate <span id="more-904"></span>to let me know your thoughts or <!--more-->comment&#8230; be well and big RevPar to you all!</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.htmagazine.com/ME2/dirmod.asp?sid=&amp;nm=&amp;type=MultiPublishing&amp;mod=PublishingTitles&amp;mid=3E19674330734FF1BBDA3D67B50C82F1&amp;tier=4&amp;id=93B9799C240843B7A94AF8BAF682860D" target="_blank">Stop  using 2009 rates in recovering economy!</a> That&#8217;s about all I can say  about this, because I would never want to encourage price setting and  have the Feds after me.  Still&#8230; if you all do it independently, well  that&#8217;s just good business. Collusion, however, is a nasty word.</li>
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<li>Cornell hotel school has their <a href="http://www.hotelschool.cornell.edu/research/chr/pubs/reports/abstract-15177.html" target="_blank">2009 wrap up</a>, <a href="http://www.hotelschool.cornell.edu/research/chr/pubs/reports/abstract-15175.html" target="_blank">2010 report</a>, &amp; another couple studies&#8230; like <a href="http://www.hotelschool.cornell.edu/research/chr/pubs/reports/abstract-15176.html" target="_blank">fairness &amp; perceived differences in rate differential</a>, or <a href="http://www.hotelschool.cornell.edu/research/chr/pubs/reports/abstract-15213.html" target="_blank">cases in innovative practices</a>.  If you don&#8217;t look at anything, I suggest you take a gander at this&#8230;. chock full of info, especially the 2010 report with articles and excercises for marketing, spa, F&amp;B, Operations and more!</li>
</ul>
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<li>Neil Salerno with &#8220;<a href="http://www.4hoteliers.com/4hots_fshw.php?mwi=4883" target="_blank">Does Anyone Remember When A Suit Came With Two Pair Of Pants?</a>&#8220;<a href="http://www.4hoteliers.com/4hots_fshw.php?mwi=4883" target="_blank"> </a>Beyond having quite a fine tailor, it&#8217;s a smart idea that Neil takes into the world of hotels skillfully, with a powerful and accurate piece on hotels, social media, websites, and more.</li>
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<li><a href="http://www.xotels.com/en/marketing/tourism-is-social" target="_blank">TOURISM IS  SOCIAL</a> &#8211; a 90 minute love note to the power and impact of social  media in Hospitality, the need to have less manipulative marketing, and  the need to create a powerful community advocating your brand.</li>
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<li>Successful email marketing is all about reaching an appropriate demographic, that you can target more specifically, while not &#8220;spamming&#8221; people who don&#8217;t have the same interests, *but* <em>are</em> fans of your hotel.  By setting up preferences in email marketing, Hotel Marketing Strategies has advised our world yet again!  Think of a branded guest that loves wine and food, but not the spa&#8230; while you have other fans of the spa that are into health and not so much fine dining.  Sure they cross paths often enough, but <a href="http://www.hotelmarketingstrategies.com/preferences-center/" target="_blank">here is a way to target them individually and be even more successful</a>.  Well done <a href="http://www.hotelmarketingstrategies.com/" target="_blank">Hotel Marketing Strategies</a>!</li>
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<li>Speaking of Josiah, well we have to say well done on this <a href="http://www.hotelmarketingstrategies.com/google-buzz-guide/" target="_blank">GOOGLE BUZZ primer</a> for hotels and marketing people.   Fantastic stuff.. learned a lot!</li>
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<li>Some good news!  Hotels are <a href="http://www.hotelsmag.com/article/451411-Hotels_Again_Gaining_Attention_From_Traditional_Lenders.php?nid=3457&amp;source=title&amp;rid=14083566" target="_blank">gaining  attention from lenders</a>, <a href="http://www.hotelsmag.com/article/451346-Travelers_To_Ramp_Up_Leisure_Trips_Spending.php?nid=3457&amp;source=title&amp;rid=14083566" target="_blank">travelers  are ramping up leisure trips</a>, and some interesting insight into your luxury branded guests&#8230;..</li>
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<li>Attempting to reach affluents, luxury brand guests, online?  Where here  are some facts that may raise your eyebrows <a href="http://www.emarketer.com/Article.aspx?R=1007552" target="_blank">about their  behaviors</a>.</li>
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<li>Some not  so good news for you F&amp;B people &#8211; or just more about the complexity of  being green,  community rooted, and sustainability focused&#8230;. like  <a href="   http://www.rimag.com/article/447970-The_Food_Safety_Implications_of_Sourcing_Locally.php" target="_blank">the  implications of sourcing locally</a>.</li>
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<li><a href="http://ismboston.blogspot.com/2010/02/service-is-new-sales.html" target="_blank">Service  is the new Sales</a> &#8211; a piece in line with listening, learning, being engaged  and involved &#8211; and tempering traditional marketing methods that sell  glitz and gooey glamour.  That stuff is out this year, and true,  refined, classical luxury is in.  I know it&#8217;s just one of millions of  hyperbolic or effusive blog titles in this world of too many posts, but I  might say that service has always been on the front end of sales&#8230;.  since the local Main St. Hardware store and before.  Service has always  been paramount in helping you sell.. this is nothing new.  The article  has some great points, though.</li>
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<li>TOURISM IS ALL OF US blog <a href="http://tourismisallofus.blogspot.com/2010/02/online-marketing-for-tourism-social.html" target="_blank">chats about &#8220;filling seats&#8221; (a la movie theatre analogy) with social media in hotels</a>.  An interesting approach to understanding what your internet presence really is&#8230;.</li>
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<li><a href="http://www.marketingtimes.com/2010/02/social-graph-optimisation-explained/" target="_blank">Optimizing your hotel&#8217;s &#8220;Social Graph&#8221; </a>- a great and simple visual way to understand social media&#8217;s impact on your guests and potential guests.</li>
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<li><a href="http://www.hotelnewsnow.com/articles.aspx?ArticleId=2830&amp;PageType=News&amp;ArticleType=35" target="_blank">Hotels experimenting with social communities</a>: Foursquare, Yelp, Blogs, Tripadvisor and more.  Discussion about some of the ideas and methods hotels are using for interaction, listening, and community.</li>
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<li><a href=" http://www.hotelworldnetwork.com/social-networking/its-okay-be-anti-social-media" target="_blank">It&#8217;s Okay To Be Anti-Social?</a> &#8211; I don&#8217;t always agree with what I am posting here so much as attempting to engage thought and discussion.  I think this methodical approach to understanding the impact of social media is fading as more and more people find meaning and potential conversion from interacting with the online world.  His sanguine points are well taken, however, and he does help get a bird&#8217;s eye view on this madness that is too much media.  What do you understand? What do you have time for?  This article probably helps in going over all of it.</li>
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<li>It&#8217;s about time&#8230;. <a href="http://www.hospitality-industry.com/index.php/news/comments/17460/" target="_blank">an  affordable iphone/droid app for European hotels</a>&#8230; Referred to as  groundbreaking, but what isn&#8217;t at this point.  I remember groundbreaking  used to mean we just broke ground, and have 18 months (or lesS) from  pouring concrete to opening the doors.  It is much more ethereal than  the brick and mortar world&#8230; but important, potentially useful news  nonetheless.  I haven&#8217;t contacted them to find out more, as I am  Stateside.  But this is something we all have our eyes on, and if you  don&#8217;t&#8230; you should.  Mobile is the future, and it&#8217;s fairly important (I  assume you have been following my blog, and will spare you the endless  linking).</li>
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<li>Are you sick of too much info?  Too much data?  Does it feel numbing as you sit by and try to beat the internet every day?  Well&#8230; MS has innovative approaches in how to <a href="http://www.hotelemarketer.com/hotel-digital-marketing/hotel-new-media/pivot-perhaps-the-early-future-of-web-and-media-browsers/" target="_blank">sift through massive amounts of raw data and content with &#8220;Pivot&#8221;</a>.</li>
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<li>If that isn&#8217;t enough for you, I would highly suggest the new <a href="http://www.economist.com/specialreports/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15557443" target="_blank">Economist special article about Data</a>&#8230; none of this is about business for you, or your brand.  It&#8217;s about collecting data, and you are just part of something so big it will melt your head.  Like issues of <a href="http://www.economist.com/specialreports/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15350984" target="_blank">Privacy in the 2.0 age</a>&#8230; and how it basically doesn&#8217;t exist anymore.  Try controlling your brand&#8217;s message&#8230; sure, right after you figure out how to stop being stalked by the internet.</li>
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<li><a href=" http://www.hotelsmag.com/article/451151-Hotel_Rides_Google_s_Wave.php" target="_blank">Google Wave starts to come of age</a> &#8211; and real meaningful commerce is happening!  If you can get past the fact that I was quoted in this article, maybe you can envision Google Wave this way:  No more misplaced log book in PBX, and no more yellow sticky notes on the desk.  That&#8217;s sort of how I want to play it&#8230;. NO MORE STICKY NOTES! =)</li>
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<li>It isn&#8217;t about you&#8230; at all.  It&#8217;s about them.  I am starting to realize this about everything&#8230; social media, website development, new marketing&#8230; it&#8217;s &#8220;what can you do for me, what have you done for me lately&#8221;.  Well, <a href="http://www.hotelsphere.co.uk/blog/" target="_blank">hotel blogosphere</a> goes on a bit in regards to this, and reminds you that it might not be about what you know, <a href="http://www.hotelsphere.co.uk/blog/archives/129-Who-knows-what-you-know.html" target="_blank">but what, fundamentally, it means to potential clients</a>.   What&#8217;s more, he hits the nail on the head <a href="http://www.hotelsphere.co.uk/blog/archives/131-Be-ruthlessly-relevant-and-decisively-different.html" target="_blank">in regards to hotel websites, relevancy, and standing out</a>.</li>
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<li>This is perhaps one of the most affordable, functional, and cool devices I have seen in a long time &#8211; zero sticker shock, stunning savings, obvious ROI, and green to boot.  Amazing what <a href="http://unitedwasteprofessionals.com/United_Waste_Professionals/About.html" target="_blank">these guys</a> are doing -<a href="http://hotelexecutive.com/newswire/31996/united-waste-professionals-inc-supports-green-lodging-association-efforts" target="_blank"> the future of waste management on hotel property</a>:</li>
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<li>Martha Stewart Wedding magazine and Hello Lucky take on one of <a href="http://www.wilburhotsprings.com/">my favorite escapes</a> in the  world&#8230; <a href="http://www.marthastewartweddings.com/photogallery/eunice-and-daniel" target="_blank">WILBUR  HOT SPRINGS!</a> (I am sharing this for no other reason than it&#8217;s a  beautiful place!  The pics from the print edition are out of this world!</li>
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<li>(Also&#8230; if you hadn&#8217;t been aware of what&#8217;s going on here, <a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/content/article/social_media_in_travel_becomes_a_legitimate_business_force/" target="_blank">social  media in travel becomes legitimate business force</a>)</li>
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		<title>Hospitality &amp; F&amp;B news &#8211; weekly round up re: social media, operations and more!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[An impressive LEED Platinum for a hotel, Napa&#8217;s Bardessono.  I would like to take the time to point out that the incredibly complex reuse project from the NPS and ECB/Fort Baker Retreat Group, Cavallo Point, was just awarded LEED Gold.  Being NPS land, historic buildings, and completely &#8220;green&#8221; presented an  interesting array of problems (aka [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An impressive <a href="http://www.hotelworldnetwork.com/overall-design/bardessono-hotel-receives-first-leed-platinum-award-calif-7310" target="_blank">LEED Platinum for a hotel, Napa&#8217;s Bardessono</a>.  I would like to take the time to point out that the incredibly complex reuse project from the NPS and ECB/Fort Baker Retreat Group, <a href="http://www.cavallopoint.com" target="_blank">Cavallo Point</a>, was just awarded LEED Gold.  Being NPS land, historic buildings, and completely &#8220;green&#8221; presented an  interesting array of problems (aka opportunities), and I am happy to say 2 years after opening it&#8217;s doors, it has finally received it&#8217;s status.  It is a shining light for the Bay Area, a stunning addition to the National Parks and GGNRA, <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/15/eco-build-leed-compliancy-ethics-in-development/" target="_blank">and a model for future development being ethical and about sustainability</a>.  I applaud <span id="more-876"></span>both these properties, especially knowing <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/03/30/its-not-a-movement-anymore-green-leed-is-just-the-way-we-do-business-now/" target="_blank">how complex the LEED process can be</a>!</p>
<p>Sign of the times &#8211; <a href="  http://www.hotelworldnetwork.com/north-americacaribbean/ritz-carlton-lake-las-vegas-will-close-doors-may-2" target="_blank">Ritz Lake Las Vegas to close 2nd May</a>.  The economy may be leveling off it&#8217;s slide, but foreclosures lurk everywhere.</p>
<p>Gulliver points out <a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2010/02/hotel_loyalty_programmes?Fsrc=glvrnwl" target="_blank">a fairly brilliant honors scheme hatched by Intercontinental Hotel Group</a> over <a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2009/11/hilton_miss" target="_blank">Hilton&#8217;s disastrous alteration of honor awards points</a>.</p>
<p>This is sort of scary, but nothing new to our industry:  <a href="http://www.hotelworldnetwork.com/new-hire/industry-needs-flexible-graduates" target="_blank">Hotel industry needs flexible graduates</a>.  &#8220;Skeleton staffs don’t bode well for hospitality students preparing to enter the market today. As if the long hours and weekends shifts in the hospitality industry weren’t unattractive enough, students entering the job world in today’s economy are forced to be more flexible than ever, often taking jobs outside of their geographical preference and much lower on the corporate ladder than they had hoped.&#8221;  Honestly &#8211; if I had known the hours I was going to work prior to starting my career in hospitality, I don&#8217;t know if I could have done it.  Of all the things I have dealt with in my life, the hours as manager at every property were dehumanizing and exacerbating.  Looking back, I don&#8217;t know how I did it for over a decade.  But that is what our industry is&#8230; high pressure, fast paced, grueling grinds, and the self delusion that it is as important as saving lives and that it will all be better tomorrow &#8211; oh, and that &#8220;lateral promotion&#8221; you took to get out of the department you are currently pigeonholed in&#8230; was totally worth it. (a little cynical humor, of course &#8211; not at all from my career.  Riiiiiiiiiiight).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hotelsphere.co.uk/blog/archives/126-If-the-phone-rings,-you-answer-it-what-about-email.html" target="_blank">Why do hotels have so much trouble answering emails?</a> This is an epic, well timed, post.  It&#8217;s a HUGE problem, and not enough companies have corporate policies.  It becomes a disaster for communication if people think they can reach you, but have zero real access to you.  It makes our industry look bad, and it has to stop.  On the up side&#8230;. if you make it a priority to reply to emails, and it becomes everyone&#8217;s priority, maybe they will slow down with better communication.  More phone calls, less emails (including those horrible passive ones hiding the real question of &#8220;why haven&#8217;t you answered my emails?) &#8211; but that might just be wishful thinking.</p>
<p>Interesting and thoughtful piece on being <a href="http://www.hotelsmag.com/blog/Something_To_Chew_On/30709-Caution_Successful_Restaurants.php?nid=3457&amp;source=title&amp;rid=" target="_blank">a cautious, calculating restaurateur &amp; entrepreneur</a> in these times.  Fact is, it pays off big in a lot of situations.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hotelsmag.com/article/449106-UK_Hiltons_To_Convert_F_B_Areas_Into_Space_For_Business.php" target="_blank">Hotels converting F&amp;B space into meeting space.</a> A lot of hotels are looking for revenue, and this was an actual conversation we had with a client in the last couple weeks&#8230;. nice to see the article agreeing with us.  Lounges and comfy spots don&#8217;t generate revenue &#8211; but meeting space does.</p>
<p>Here are some interesting thoughts on <a href="http://eon.businesswire.com/portal/site/eon/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&amp;newsId=20100202007287&amp;newsLang=en" target="_blank">Luxury Lifestyle and Travel Trends for 2010</a></p>
<p>Is Social Media the next Search Engine?  Some people think it is, just as we find out <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/02/14/BUU51C0AMN.DTL" target="_blank">Facebook directs more online users than Google</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.openforum.com/idea-hub/topics/marketing/article/why-the-buzz-about-augmented-reality-apps-might-actually-matter-for-your-small-business-rohit" target="_blank">Augmented Reality is buzzed about</a> for a reason&#8230; and not just because it is PHENOMENALLY AWESOME.  But it may actually create business, even for small businesses.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marketingtimes.com/2010/02/geolocation-the-future-of-hotel-marketing/" target="_blank">Is geolocating the future of hotel marketing</a>?  I love that hyperbole, I really do&#8230; but let&#8217;s just leave it at &#8220;a really important, impacting development&#8221; before waving the white flag at all other types of marketing.  I actually think it is&#8230; for one, there&#8217;s <a href=" http://foursquare.com/zagat" target="_blank">FourSquare</a>.  But I don&#8217;t like getting *too* carried away. =)</p>
<p>Foursquare does have some strategic growth;  <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/social-media/7195694/Foursquare-signs-deal-with-Zagat.html" target="_blank">First Zagat</a>, <a href="http://www.hotelsmag.com/lexisnexis/7921223-Chicago_Tourism_Office_Partners_With_Foursquare.php?nid=3457&amp;source=title&amp;rid=14083566" target="_blank">then Chicago</a>.  Some pretty big stuff happening, and it makes me excited that with all this activity, and other industry people cloning their format in multiple ways, Foursquare seems aware and fluid enough with a solid enough business acumen, to withstand the turbulence in this crowded arena.  They seem smart, and I think you need to keep an eye on them.  If you haven&#8217;t gotten a google alert from them about someone &#8220;checking in&#8221; to your hotel or business, trust me&#8230; you will.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://ow.ly/14jG0" target="_blank">future of marketing in hotels</a>? This is a tech guy with idealistic notions of what hospitality *COULD* do &#8211; with money, foresight, more labor, and planning.  It&#8217;s a good idea, some luxury brands might try to get there with this as a gimmick, to start&#8230;.. but interesting and enthusiastic read nonetheless.  Beyond that, I liked the idea&#8230; and don&#8217;t mind plugging him.  He has got to be one of the only people out there that I know building Iphone (and I assume Android as well) apps that has even the most rudimentary understanding of the hotel business.  A lot of people are yapping about apps in our industry&#8230;. we might not be able to afford one, but for those that moved enough of your 2009 marketing budget online, and have a bit to spare&#8230;. check him out.</p>
<p>An interesting blog about the <a href="  http://www.socialightmediakenya.com/social-media-in-kenya-hotel-industry" target="_blank">development of social media in the Kenyan hotel industry</a>, and can possibly be extrapolated to other small inns and boutique properties that don&#8217;t have the monster marketing budget, but know there is an audience to reach.</p>
<p>The UK heats up <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/websites-list-of-dirtiest-hotels-provokes-anger-1885161.html" target="_blank">about online hotel reviews, looking for some sort of validation process for Tripadvisor</a>.  Is this another aspect of GPS &amp; Geolocation that could help curtail fraud and shill reviewing?  Whatever the case, I think the industry can handle itself&#8230;. it&#8217;s in their best interests.  Getting the government involved to regulate seems a bit much.  The only winner when you start legal proceedings are the lawyers.  Very few other people actually win besides them.</p>
<p>Speaking of Tripadvisor&#8230; here are a couple <a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/content/article/best_practices_for_a_top_ranking_on_tripadvisor/" target="_blank">best practices for a top ranking</a>.</p>
<p><a href=" http://www.marketingtimes.com/2010/02/social-media-platforms-as-customer-service-tools-for-your-hotel/" target="_blank">Social media as customer service for hotels</a>.  Thank you for not saying social media as a way &#8220;to sell&#8221; or &#8220;drive revenue&#8221;.  Social Media may have a valid ROI, but this is more about being a cost of operations than a revenue stream.  We can all drive revenue with it&#8230;. but it is simply more important to *ENGAGE*.  Because in the end, ignoring it will cost you.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an <a href=" http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/article/hotel_social_media_perspective/" target="_blank">odd piece</a> &#8211; great thoughts&#8230; horrible grammar.  I didn&#8217;t understand this, so I include it to see if you have any thoughts?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it!  Just thoughts and links and interesting stuff!  A real post is coming soon, I promise!</p>
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		<title>HOTEL NEWS &amp; SOCIAL MEDIA HAPPENINGS! A Really boring post with a lot of good links</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[FIRST:  Daniel Craig at EHotelier is incredible funny.  Well played sir&#8230; 2010 Trends.  Hilarious for us dorky hotel types. And&#8230; anyone that wants to look at and figure out this abstract from a couple UK universities: A model of hotel occupancy performance for monitoring and marketing in the hotel industry Spas adapt to these rough [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FIRST:  Daniel Craig at EHotelier is incredible funny.  Well played sir&#8230; <a href="http://ehotelier.com/hospitality-news/item.php?id=17815_0_11_0_C" target="_blank">2010 Trends</a>.  Hilarious for us dorky hotel types.</p>
<p>And&#8230; anyone that wants to look at and figure out this abstract from a couple UK universities:<a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6VBH-45P147D-8M&amp;_user=10&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;_docanchor=&amp;view=c&amp;_rerunOrigin=google&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=368c754364b5720ec657562044950092" target="_blank"></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6VBH-45P147D-8M&amp;_user=10&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;_docanchor=&amp;view=c&amp;_rerunOrigin=google&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=368c754364b5720ec657562044950092" target="_blank">A model of hotel occupancy performance for monitoring and marketing in the hotel industry</a></p>
<p>Spas adapt to these rough times:</p>
<p><a href="http://intransit.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/in-transit-spa-samplers/" target="_blank"> appetizer sized spa portions&#8230; down economy forcing a reorientation of full sized treatments</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.greenrecoverings.org/home/" target="_blank">green recoverings &#8211; donating used linens for the needy</a><br />
a simple, PHENOMENAL program that would be easy, and <span id="more-859"></span>beneficial, to implement.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hoteljobresource.com/trends-detail-sid-42710.html" target="_blank">What would google do?</a> &#8211; vilifying google for content distribution</p>
<p>Gradigio / Hotel Marketing Strategies &#8211; <a href="http://www.hotelmarketingstrategies.com/best-of-2009/" target="_blank">Josiah&#8217;s best of 2009</a> and <a href=" http://www.hotelmarketingstrategies.com/hotel-marketing-ideas-for-2010/" target="_blank">Strategies for 2010</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.hotelresource.com/trends-detail-sid-43179.html" target="_blank">Social Media integrated with email marketing for hotels</a></p>
<p><a href=" http://www.doityourself.com/stry/how-sustainable-tourism-affects-travel-and-your-wallet" target="_blank">How sustainable tourism effects travel and your wallet</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.hotelnewsresource.com/article43160.html" target="_blank">Google study suggest marketing imperative to travel</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.openforum.com/idea-hub/topics/technology/article/social-media-books-to-start-your-year-off-right-christina-warren" target="_blank"> Some great books for the businessperson just entering social media, and trying to make sense of it.</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jaunted.com/story/2009/12/22/85110/985/travel/High+Fashion+Hits+The+Rails+With+Lacroix-Designed+French+Train+Uniforms" target="_blank">La Croix meets hotel uniforms to equal high fashion on the frontlines</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/154000320/4044920.html" target="_blank">Google&#8217;s Real Time Search, and hotel social media marketing</a></p>
<p>And The <a href="http://www.bomcdowell.com/brand-marketing/morgans-hotel-group-cmo-marketing-a-luxury-brand-during-a-recession" target="_blank">CMO of Morgans talking about their &#8220;Recess is on&#8221; recession campaign</a> by staying and being &#8220;outrageously&#8221; cool.  I will tell you what&#8230;. I am including this because I just think these guys are way off.  Time will tell&#8230;. but using words like psychicgraphic.. is idiotic.  Their new campaign is &#8220;get dirty (two dirty martinis), get wet (big bathtub), get blown (in room salon services).  They are, apparently, adding value&#8230; and asking guests to trade up.  It just feels like a syrupy mess of creepy and scummy come together.  Which is why The Clift in SF, likely, is known as &#8220;The Place where locals go to cheat on their wives&#8221;.  Ugh.</p>
<p>Sorry I have been to busy to blog, everyone.  I have about 10 hanging about, and will get through them in the next couple months.  Cheers, be well, and happy new year!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[All this being told... I think the slide and panic is over.  Our awful day at the beach is done, and what happens next is shaking out the blanket to clear the sand.... and we will see what is jarred loose from the hotel economic fabric.  The problems that are still to come are not pro-longed troubles for hotels, it is simply the back end of the recession working itself out.  Until then.... buckle up.... I doubt it will be too bumpy a drive home, but it's gonna be a long ride.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually got into a conversation on linked in today!  Go figure&#8230; I haven&#8217;t used it much as the &#8220;professional facebook&#8221;, but every once in awhile meaningful discussion about the industry pops up&#8230;. even then I typically don&#8217;t dive in.  But it is interesting&#8230;. so much conversation about the recession being over, and hoteliers, ownership, and properties are popping up their heads to see if they see their shadow.  As real winter looms, our proverbial &#8220;winter of discontent&#8221; wanes.  But instead of being rife with joy&#8230; let&#8217;s cast our doom &amp; gloom nets out a bit.  If you look anywhere in media &#8211; fear and panic  are often confused and countered by <span id="more-830"></span>people&#8217;s desire to find the light at the end of the tunnel.  There are two types in this debate&#8230;. the sky is falling, or it&#8217;s looking up.</p>
<p>Well&#8230; I am cautiously optimistic.  The Dow hit 10,000 today, briefly, and a &#8220;painful recovery&#8221; is nothing in light of 80% of economists saying <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/12/news/economy/recession_nabe/?postversion=2009101210" target="_blank">&#8220;The Recession is Over&#8221;.</a> What&#8217;s more &#8211; It isn&#8217;t just the normal public mags, but trade mags are being VERY cautious in saying&#8230; &#8220;recession lifting, let&#8217;s get back to it!&#8221;.  In fact, not many are even highlighting articles about it&#8230; it is just a general &#8220;how to weather the rest of it&#8221;, &#8220;ideas for getting out of the recession&#8221; and the like.  There are articles like <a href="http://www.jsonline.com/business/64221077.html" target="_blank">this</a> (and <a href="http://www.newsleader.com/article/20091013/NEWS01/910130313/1002/news01/Valley-bed-and-breakfasts-thrive-despite-recession-s-impact" target="_blank">here</a> about a community&#8217;s B&amp;Bs, and I have seen many like <a href="http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Sign-of-recovery-Hotels-hike-tariffs-as-inflow-increases/articleshow/5124748.cms" target="_blank">this</a> about international markets)  all over the internet&#8230; little niches surviving or doing great!</p>
<p>It is a good feeling to see people conversing about an end to our economic woes.  Of course, I don&#8217;t forget that it is the talk and panic that drives the initial problem, as well as talk and optimism that can drive us out of the &#8220;mud&#8221; on our bottom line&#8230;&#8230; that is&#8230;&#8230;decidedly&#8230;.. black.  In fact, that negativity and existential concern about hotels and their future still pervades the news feeds.  But let&#8217;s not give the time of day to those who pander to the lowest common denominator&#8230; let&#8217;s look at a tried and true brand who&#8217;s consistent and professional tone to the industry is a good earmark for our collective concerns:  <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703746604574461461937419866.html?mod=googlenews_wsj" target="_blank">Marriott&#8217;s blog post</a>.</p>
<p>I think it sums up the problem we hoteliers currently have&#8230; we would like to celebrate the dow at 10K, or the economists reporting, en masse, &#8220;it&#8217;s getting much better!&#8221;.  The problem is the reality, and that many hotels in standard, normal markets can feel the pinch for some time longer.</p>
<p>Another reason to hesitate&#8230;. we are growing, but current growth is *slow*.   I don&#8217;t have the articles on me, but I do know that lenders are still holding all the keys because the value of properties since 2007 have basically halved (Hotel Business Vol. 18 No. 19 Oct 7-20, 2009)&#8230; which is ground shakingly tragic.  The foreclosured and distressed will hit the market soon, and more problems will be discovered than are currently known.  But on the other side of this coin, it is time for equity and ownership to start finding PHENOMENAL deals.  Everyone should be able to buy a hotel in the coming year (joke)&#8230;.</p>
<p>Economic recovery and slow growth is one thing&#8230; but we are hotels, and we might need to take a closer look at the national unemployment rate.  The economy might be recovering, but our industry is so COMPLETELY controlled by labour and unemployment, I am worried it will give a false sense of security when certain segments might still get hit hard.   I saw Tom Callahan the other day from PKF in San Francisco, and he said the basic consensus is that we will not hit q4 2007 or q1 2008 ADR and RevPar until 2014&#8230; which is&#8230;. depressing.  But it is only a climb up from here.  As long as you retained some rate parity, the property should be able to bounce back.  If you are like Vegas, you may have dug a hole so deep, you will have issues &#8220;digging up&#8221;. =)</p>
<p>(To be fair, even some people think that Vegas is finally on an upswing, <a href="http://www.buyassociation.co.uk/property/news/usa/las-vegas-takes-a-tough-stand-against-the-recession-14242.html" target="_blank">or at least battling the recession</a>.  True their tourism is down, their rooms are empty&#8230;. but finishing City Center in a climate like this is amazing, and frankly&#8230; although they are reducing flats @ $2000 / sq ft possibly to below $1000 / sq ft&#8230;. I am shocked 55% of it has been sold.)</p>
<p>All this being told&#8230; I think the slide and panic is over.  Our awful day at the beach is done, and what happens next is shaking out the blanket to clear the sand&#8230;. and we will see what is jarred loose from the hotel economic fabric.  The problems that are still to come are not pro-longed troubles for hotels, it is simply the back end of the recession working itself out.  Until then&#8230;. buckle up&#8230;. I doubt it will be too bumpy a drive home, but it&#8217;s gonna be a long ride.</p>
<p>Yes I am fully aware of how many metaphors I used in this.  =)  Good luck EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU&#8230; be well, hang tough&#8230; and see you on the other side!</p>
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