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		<title>Facebook &amp; TripAdvisor; an issue for Google or Yelp?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Revelation!  I love it. I don&#8217;t always have stuff hit me, but it hit me today. So I hadn&#8217;t figured out why Tripadvisor&#8217;s Restaurant Reviews had recently, so vigorously, taken off.  For those of us in hospitality who are aware of our brands online, it was hard to miss.  It is vital to stay on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Revelation!  I love it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t always have stuff hit me, but it hit me today.</p>
<p>So I hadn&#8217;t figured out why Tripadvisor&#8217;s Restaurant Reviews had recently, so vigorously, taken off.  For those of us in hospitality who are aware of our brands online, it was hard to miss.  It is vital to stay on top of all conversation, reviews, and mentions, and whether through Google Alerts, or a random internet search&#8230; you noticed restaurants began to get reviews on Tripadvisor. It&#8217;s not really a surprise, and it is a completely natural direction for a travel site like TA.  But, where there wasn&#8217;t even an option to review or add <span id="more-1150"></span>restaurants until a couple months ago, the frequency of seeing reviews pop up is gaining <!--more-->momentum. MASSIVE momentum&#8230; and it seemed like it had to be larger than the Tripadvisor user base. I really noticed when some of our restaurants were ending up with as many, if not more, reviews than Yelp. I hadn&#8217;t been able to figure it out, but when I just added one of our newly opened restaurants to the Tripadvisor database, it used *FACEBOOK CONNECT* to populate the information about the restaurant, meaning the database lives both in Tripadvisor, where people can review it natively from that site, as well as inside Facebook as an application called &#8220;Tripadvisor Local Picks&#8221;.</p>
<p>Uh oh Yelp.</p>
<p>Yelpers can be attention seekers, but the platform of Facebook is the mecca of ME ME ME. If there is one thing a Facebooker is going to enjoy doing, it&#8217;s share their opinion &#8211; *ESPECIALLY* to their real live network of people who may be affected (or forewarned) by a review. It is obviously a natural part of networking, community, and connecting.  Oh.. it also vests itself in ego, and the desire to establish equity in social status. Go figure&#8230; but it never hurt, that while recommending a nice romantic restaurant to a friend, an ex fling sees your exciting life.  I am certainly not claiming this to be me, but the fact that studies have been done on <a class="vt-p" href="http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-09/uog-sfp092208.php" target="_blank">detecting narcissism through facebook profiles</a>, it&#8217;s certainly something that exists.  Here is another article that goes a bit deeper into <a class="vt-p" href="http://shrink4men.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/social-media-platforms-narcissists-borderlines-and-histrionics-the-lure-of-blogs-facebook-and-myspace/" target="_blank">social media and ego</a>.</p>
<p>This means that, alongside the Tripadvisor user base populating restaurant reviews, we now have unwitting Facebook users contributing content to that database. You have a 400 million person population casually being redirected to Tripadvisor to help add content.  But this content generation is happening *from within Facebook*. This app makes it so that FB users are not leaving the site.  This reinforces the travel industry understanding that we can no longer create community when competing with communities like Facebook.  If Tripadvisor is learning this, and allowing off-site content generation, what do you think of your small community?  You need to congregate where people already exist, and reach out to them where they are online, not where you wish them to be (cue $100,000 website laden with bulky flash and slow load times).</p>
<p>In the meantime, you may have noticed Facebook searches being populated with hotel listings, and other brand names in wider internet searches. If a 400 million user population gets used to searching brand names and businesses for reviews, and information&#8230; that is the beginning of some powerful commerce. What&#8217;s more, Yelp could quickly become irrelevant under the crushing weight of Facebook&#8217;s population eager to add content for Tripadvisor, whether they know what they are doing or not.  It has been suggested that Facebook users <a class="vt-p" href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_wants_to_be_your_one_true_login.php" target="_blank">don&#8217;t always know what they are doing</a> (warning: hilarity ensues. Yes I know I have posted that a couple times.  It is too funny).</p>
<p>The way these two are dancing, I could see a marriage in the future. I think they want to date for a bit, but they might become a bit more popular than some of the other options out there. I am not saying Facebook could acquire Tripadvisor, but I am wondering what Google is going to do now that Yelp is off the table, or if that is something that might be revisited? Facebook and Tripadvisor paired could become a brutal force against Google&#8217;s plans, not to mention OTA&#8217;s like Expedia.  As for Yelp&#8230; they might not even see it coming.  Opentable reviews have already legitimized the review process in a way that Yelp has not been capable of.  Reviewing for friends, family, and network in a Facebook model creates more legitimacy still.</p>
<p>As always, I might be missing something. I know FB Connect works with Yelp in some ways, but I don&#8217;t think you can generate content from within a Facebook app?  There is so much to consider, I might be off.  But it&#8217;s always fun to watch this stuff develop. As always I promise to keep you posted. =)</p>
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		<title>Stalking guests, or doing our job? RE: &#8220;Connecting the Dots between guests and online reviews&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 18:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a dynamic conversation that is maturing and growing into having severe impact on a hotel's livelihood. If a hotel is smart enough to be on the ball with social media, and understand the nature of this constructive communication - it is hardly their fault that a guest reviewer doesn't understand that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need to start with a couple presuppositions about social media:</p>
<p>1) It&#8217;s the wild west of social media.</p>
<p>2) This isn&#8217;t rocket science &#8211; it&#8217;s about old school customer service.</p>
<p>3) Knee jerk reactionary business owners will always blow things out of proportion, dodge accountability, and blind themselves to what&#8217;s really happening to their brand through the eyes of clients.  You don&#8217;t need social media for that&#8230;. it&#8217;s been that way for centuries.  Of course reviewers shouldn&#8217;t be marked as &#8220;problem guests&#8221; for writing a critical review &#8211; that&#8217;s poor real-world management of information, and not about the nature of the information itself.  This is a major component of the flawed<span id="more-1089"></span> logic for anonymity seekers.</p>
<p>Now the question we are trying to answer:</p>
<p>Should there be a reasonable expectation of privacy in regards to User Generated Content?  More specifically, is it ok for a hotel to connect the dots between user generated hotel reviews and the actual guest transaction, folio, etc.  In <a href="http://www.elliott.org/the-navigator/hotels-connect-the-dots-between-guests-and-online-reviews/" target="_blank">this article about hotels deducing who wrote Tripadvisor reviews</a>, the author muses on the tension between a hotel wanting to know who wrote the review, and the reviewer wanting some level of anonymity.  He leaves it with advice for how users may better secure anonymity.</p>
<p>I am going to sort of put it out there at the beginning of this that *anyone* who *ever* writes a review and wants anonymity is a fraud and coward.  But that&#8217;s my opinion.  Let&#8217;s delve a bit deeper.</p>
<p>In the end, what is the point of a &#8220;review&#8221;?  Is it to help the external guest network accumulate reliable information, or a place to help a proprietor with advice, or a place to bitch, etc.  Defining what we think it should be, coupled with what we think it is, is vital.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the long term maturity of socmed will favor or highlight those whom wish to complain anonymously, or flippantly.  It won&#8217;t help business models flourish, it won&#8217;t really help potential guests, and it certainly doesn&#8217;t help the hotels.   As social media takes hold, verifiability and tangible accountability will be de riguer, because there needs to be reliability in regards to what exists online, or all of it will fall apart, partly because the less reliable the reviews, the less likely the site will get the network effect desired to make it relevant (however, I think anonymous internet culture is massively important in it&#8217;s own right, but doesn&#8217;t exist in the same manner as user generated content that interacts with brick and mortar business).  Transparency issues have plagued most review sites, and they are constantly reconfiguring the sites to be more trustworthy, and reliable.  It&#8217;s not the nature of the <a href="http://groundswell.forrester.com/" target="_blank">groundswell</a> to be random, or isolated; so these types of anonymous reviews will become irrelevant and less frequent, especially with technologies connecting secondary sites with main social hubs like Twitter or Facebook.  Legitimacy is key to social media&#8217;s power and survival, and people will eventually recognize that it is molding the day to day operations of our physical business world, and it serves to allow business to grow and listen.  Either act like the historically terrible businessman and dodge responsibility, or in all humility, sideline hubris for content laden dialogue that helps to bolster your bottom line, fix problems, understand demographic needs, etc.</p>
<p>So if you have a business &#8220;doing&#8221; social media &#8220;right&#8221; (quotes added in regards to obvious subjectivity), they are looking for information, and trying to extend themselves to their guests so as to understand their point of view, concerns, etc.</p>
<p>In that, social media reviews, whatever the individual content creator&#8217;s reasoning, are for hotels to understand their obligations to their guests.  It is tantamount to filling out a comment card or talking with management (of course this is something we would like to see more often, and often guests hide behind the *supposed* veil of anonymity, in the lapsed understanding of their earnest role in meaningful exchange).</p>
<p>There is absolutely zero argument against a hotel seeking out all possible avenues to help their business grow, learn, recover, and exist into the future.  In essence, the guest opted-in to the hotel by staying there, and to a much greater extent opted-in to interaction by generating public content.</p>
<p>If a guest doesn&#8217;t like a hotel responding to their review, then they should simply speak to management to begin with.  The majority of hotel reviewers are doing 2 things: helping the hotel, and helping future guests.  If they are particularly excited you can add &#8220;brand aware advocate&#8221; or &#8220;brand endorser&#8221;, but we are obviously speaking about constructive to critical reviews.  A smaller and nearly irrelevant (true &#8211; hotels over-react to bad reviews, but potential guests and review readers quickly filter seething reviews as if they were blocking an internet ad banner&#8230;. it&#8217;s unconscious and natural to pass over obviously unhinged or shill reviews.  Most people, even *YOU* gentle reader, don&#8217;t even realize they are honing in on and favoring specific reviews over those that are obviously blatant, nonconstructive anger).</p>
<p>In the end, why would one even write a review?  Anything generated on the internet should be considered public, and I am finally ready to start laughing heartily at the privacy conversations in regards to Facebook, and social media.  It&#8217;s ludicrous to have an expectation of privacy&#8230;. especially when you are GENERATING CONTENT that is being READ AND INDEXED.  Doesn&#8217;t that seem a bit disingenuous and incredibly naive to think you would remain anonymous while adding such specific information?</p>
<p>So I ask reviewers maintaining their need for anonymity &#8211; why?  Of course the reaction of a negative ownership or bad business manager is one reason, but you don&#8217;t need social media for that.  They will be awful both offline and on.  What&#8217;s more, why should anyone find any legitimacy or trust in a reviewer that is cloaked in the shadows of anonymity?  A faceless reviewer with few review, and no reference points vs. a reviewer with an avatar &amp; history of constructive reviewing&#8230;  which would an average reader trust?  So &#8211; what&#8217;s the point of anonymity?  The idea of hotels exploiting guest information is also a red herring, because that has nothing to do with social media, but everything to do with unethical management.  Bad business does what it wants, and that may include exploiting guest data and information.  But most hoteliers don&#8217;t have time, capacity, or desire to casually amble through bits of minutia.  There is only one single reason hotels collect and use data: to enhance the guest experience.  Period.  The slippery slope is talking about &#8220;bad hotels&#8221; vs. &#8220;ethical hotels&#8221;, of course.  But as I mentioned &#8211; unethical business is unethical both online and off.</p>
<p>Social Media, especially user generated content, has had a fleeting but powerful impact on the nature of how businesses interact with clients.  It is redefining our relationship with our guests, and we are at an irrevocable point in how we exist in relationship to it.  It&#8217;s absurd to think this should be a one sided interaction with no response, especially when the best business owners are also proud and passionate about the product they provide.  I know small business owners that live and die by their 5 star reviews, and every single bad review is something to be taken seriously &#8211; these review sites have built up businesses through strong referral networks, and we have also seen businesses brought down by that same powerful method of communication.  Sometimes, it almost feels like a chef&#8217;s reaction to losing a Michelin Star&#8230; it&#8217;s that serious.</p>
<p>I apologize to the reviewers that think review sites are a void to hurl epithets and grumpy experiences of bad travel days&#8230;. you are out of touch, and you need to reconsider exactly *why* you are reviewing.</p>
<p>This is a dynamic conversation that is maturing and growing into having severe impact on a hotel&#8217;s livelihood.  If a hotel is smart enough to be on the ball with social media, and understand the nature of this constructive communication &#8211; it is hardly their fault that a guest reviewer doesn&#8217;t understand that.</p>
<p>All this, however, will sort it out within 5 years and a whole new set of complex problems will exist.  Can&#8217;t wait to think about those, as well.</p>
<p>If you actually got to this point&#8230; take a break from working. I am sure you need it. =)</p>
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		<title>Mobile is new point of sale, branded websites in demise, Speed matters, and other Hospitality thoughts about current social media headlines.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 21:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This probably should have been multiple posts. Sorry. Google PLACES (or where did my Local Business Center shove off to?) One of my favorite developments in the last few weeks, aside from Google&#8217;s experimentation with populating rates of hotels into it&#8217;s maps, is Google &#8220;Places&#8221;.  The blogosphere is abuzz with gentle, quiet speculation on what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This probably should have been multiple posts. Sorry.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Google PLACES (or where did my Local Business Center shove off to?)</strong></span></p>
<p>One of my favorite developments in the last few weeks, aside from <a href="http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/03/experiment-to-show-hotel-prices-on.html" target="_blank">Google&#8217;s experimentation with populating rates of hotels into it&#8217;s maps</a>, is Google &#8220;Places&#8221;.  The blogosphere is abuzz with gentle, quiet speculation on what in the heck is going on<span id="more-1049"></span> here.  It&#8217;s obvious repositioning to <a href="http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Cloud-Computing/Google-Places-Vies-for-Local-Search-Share-Versus-Yelp-Twitter-Foursquare-870212/" target="_blank">compete with the likes of Yelp and Foursquare</a>.  But <a href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2010/04/google-renames-local-business-center-now-places/1" target="_blank">Google is rolling some of the features attached to the new name a bit slow</a>, and we will see how it reshapes our mobile experience.  I, for one, really trust Google&#8217;s methodical approach to entering this space&#8230; and when they unroll their entire suite, I think it will challenge Yelp to Expedia and other OTA&#8217;s.  If you can advert with Places in your market&#8230; let me know how it goes!</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">As Google positions, Tripadvisor works to get ads going in the first place</span></strong></p>
<p>Tripadvisor toils in it&#8217;s monetization attempts&#8230; <a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/content/article/first_hotels_now_tourist_boards_-_tripadvisor_to_monetize_traffic/" target="_blank">First  hotels, now tourist boards</a>.  You know how I feel about paying for  your hotel to be listed with information on TA&#8230; DO IT!  Think about  what percentage of your traffic comes from OTA&#8217;s, then start figuring  out depending on your market and rank on TA how much of that traffic  jumps to Expedia or others straight from Tripadvisor.  That 25% markup  those OTA&#8217;s are stealing from you will come back, and likely quickly pay  for the Tripadvisor listing fee.  It&#8217;s a smart move, and a cheap  experiment.</p>
<p>Something else that might be a costly experiment in regards to Tripadvisor is losing you reservations to Expedia, and hurting your SEO.  Tripadvisor badges or widgets that aren&#8217;t actively blocking search engines are likely bad for business.  I posted (the below) article about how it hurts your hotel site&#8217;s SEO, but bolsters Tripadvisor&#8217;s.  What I didn&#8217;t realize was this &#8211; if people link from your website and booking engine to Tripadvisor via that widget &#8211; and like what they see on Tripadvisor &#8211; they are usually sent to EXPEDIA to book their room.  You just linked your guest to a page that will make you pay a 25% commission.  I don&#8217;t have all the answers, but <a href="http://www.thatagency.com/design-studio-blog/2010/03/why-hotels-should-stop-using-tripadvisors-rating-widget/" target="_blank">in the comments section of *THIS ARTICLE*</a>, the gent describes a fancy way to blind the widget.  I have also seen hotel sites that simply copy and paste the review from Tripadvisor or Yelp into different parts of their website &#8211; thus stuffing a page full of relevant keywords that can also help the guest decide to book&#8230; while continually mingling with your booking engine the whole time, never chancing lost control of your inventory.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">MORE SOCIAL TOOLS, INFO, &amp; Tech Talk</span></strong></p>
<p><a href="http://mashable.com/2010/04/20/twitter-for-business/" target="_blank">Unique and  fairly intelligent ways to leverage twitter</a>&#8230; a non hotel article  to get you thinking about what twitter is, and how you can leverage it  to benefit your property.</p>
<p>A brief link, but a good question &#8211; <a href="http://blog.vfmleonardo.com/are-there-any-standards-for-hotel-videos-should-we-hire-actors-or-use-our-own-staff/" target="_blank">who do you use for hotel videos? Hired actors? Regular  line staff?</a> It&#8217;s important to consider how you want to represent  your hotel, and how people will receive the information.  Honestly, I  think the manipulated, high gloss marketing message is in shambles, and  when it looks too slick, people will immediately not trust it or find it  disingenuous.   Whatever the case, this is all about having a plan and  understanding as you tackle new media&#8230;. if you don&#8217;t these things come  out of left field and surprise you.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/article/design_hotels_launches_facebook_booking_engine/" target="_blank">Design Hotels launches a Facebook Booking Engine</a>&#8230;.  (call it an F.B.E. for short!).  This will, once and for all, solve the  problem of wondering whether people are on Facebook to proselytize and  chatter about brands as a showy display of feathers (I LIKE THIS BRAND!  It means I am AWESOME!), or is it a place to commune, share, and  ultimately &#8211; BOOK?  Just checking it out, <a href="http://www.facebook.com/DesignHotelsAG" target="_blank">it  seems fairly confusing</a>.  I enter my dates, and then I mysteriously  land on an unassociated page without it transmitting the choices I  made.  Seems like FB booking has a way to go.</p>
<p>I for one am a) sick of hearing about  the IPAD, b) sick about the marketing reinventing history as if Apple  invented the tablet, and c) sick of hearing about all the giddy fanboys  trying to adopt slick but inherently flawed tech as nothing more than a  marketing gimmick.  HOWEVER&#8230;. this article, <a href="http://www.hotelnewsnow.com/Articles.aspx?ArticleId=3138&amp;ArticleType=35&amp;PageType=News" target="_blank">IPAD:  Hotel Hype, or Help?</a>,  says it is making Intercontinental&#8217;s  concierge more personable &amp; functional (<a href="http://point2agentblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/spock-ipad1.jpg" target="_blank">not  to mention cool like they are from Star Trek</a>), and it isn&#8217;t just  hype.  I know the tablet will be the future or consumers and content  ingestors&#8230;. but I just think we are a bit of a way off from it being  functional for content generators.  This is simply a machine to  advertise to consumers, no more, no less.  Playing a game or reading the  paper is incidental.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">HOTEL TALK!</span></strong></p>
<p>RevPar laws basically state &#8211; Trading Rate for Occupancy isn&#8217;t that smart of a move (Labor, among other operating costs, rise significantly, and the added dollars don&#8217;t always even out on the bottom line).  So why is the &#8220;Name your own price&#8221; phenomena rearing it&#8217;s ugly head?  <a href="http://connect.phocuswright.com/2010/04/name-your-own-price-is-this-hotel-revenue-management/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ThePhocuswrightBlog+%28The+PhoCusWright+Blog%29&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader">Phocuswright tries to explain here.</a></p>
<p>Not to mention&#8230; most of us still think it is <a href="http://www.searchamelia.com/2010/04/02/act-now-and-you-get-a-two-for-one/" target="_blank">perceived value that has a big part in selling hotels</a>&#8230; and not handing back money to someone who would have paid the higher rate you just tanked, anyway.</p>
<p>Do you think modern marketing for hospitality is at a crossroads?  I do.  But then again, <a href="http://www.dontdrinkthekoolaidblog.com/customer-service-hotel-marketing/comment-page-1/http://www.dontdrinkthekoolaidblog.com/customer-service-hotel-marketing/comment-page-1/http://www.dontdrinkthekoolaidblog.com/customer-service-hotel-marketing/comment-page-1/http://www.dontdrinkthekoolaidblog.com/customer-service-hotel-marketing/comment-page-1/" target="_blank">maybe I think the doormen are more about the hallmark of our industry &#8211; hospitable, friendly customer service &#8211; than marketing</a>.  When marketers start calling normal operations &#8220;marketing&#8221;, you know they are scrambling to make sense of the confusing new world of social media.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">TIG shares their wealth of knowledge with hoteliers, and more!</span></strong></p>
<p>TIG releases more reports, further exemplifying why people want to work with Thayer.  Wow. <a href="http://www.tigglobal.com/dmobestpractices/" target="_blank"> The reports are on Microsites, Mobile, &amp; Apps, as well as a 2 part on Social Media &amp; the DMO Marketer.</a> Double Wow equals video leveraging of insider&#8217;s tips&#8230;. <a href="http://www.hotel-blogs.com/guillaume_thevenot/2010/04/tig-global-explains-in-videos.html" target="_blank">Quick, simple, instructional videos from TIG on internet marketing, hotel SEO, and more</a>!  If you ever have the budget to work with these guys, there is only one answer about whether you should&#8230;. YES. You should.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>MOBILE IS A POINT OF SALE, but remember it isn&#8217;t all or nothing!</strong></span></p>
<p>This one is a slam dunk, because <a href="http://www.hotelnewsresource.com/article44803Location_Based_Mobil_Marketing_Good_News_for_the_Hospitality_Industry.html" target="_blank">Mobile Marketing is Good News for Hotels!</a> Beyond that article, what you really want are actual tips &#8211; not just on energizing your comprehension of  mobile marketing &#8211; but getting into it and doing it right.  Some have deemed it the &#8220;new point of sale&#8221; &#8211; and Mashable helps you figure out how to work with it.   Mashable is sometimes a bit vacuous with mindless social media  fandom&#8230;. but these <a href="http://mashable.com/2010/03/15/location-based-marketing/" target="_blank">*9 tips  about location based marketing*</a> are winners.  If you need some help finding the business page in Foursquare.. well..<a href="http://foursquare.com/businesses/" target="_blank"> it&#8217;s right here</a>.  If you are trying to figure out more, and it&#8217;s over your head&#8230; you might want to consider <a href="http://events.eyefortravel.com/online-marketing/agenda.asp" target="_blank">EYE FOR TRAVEL&#8217;s conference on Mobile in Travel &amp; Hospitality</a> in London, early June. I linked the agenda back there, and if it doesn&#8217;t get you excited about the potential of mobile (or kinetic energy at this point), nothing will.  Social Mobile is the ROI everyone has been salivating for.  Pay attention to it.</p>
<p>But remember&#8230; <a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/content/article/while_mobile_hotel_bookings_surge_traditional_channels_hold_their_own/" target="_blank">as  mobile burgeons, traditional channels still provide results</a>.  Not only do those channels hold tight, so does email marketing (something Hotel Marketing Strategies has been a big supporter of)&#8230; as you can see with some<a href="http://www.hotelmarketingstrategies.com/3-surprising-email-charts/" target="_blank"> surprising information he put together on a recent post</a>.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">COFFEE TALK, or *PHEW* I am sort of getting overwhelmed because I am a hotelier, not a tech guru or social geek!</span></strong></p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important to take all these rapid changes with gentle aplomb, some furrowed brows, but a lot of thoughtful shoulder shrugging too.  It&#8217;s important to be a fence sitter sometimes&#8230; accumulate as much data as possible before making any decision.  I am not saying delaying action, but I am suggesting to be thoughtful.  Don&#8217;t automatically become a convert to this new world, because no one really understands it yet.  *NO ONE*.  I think Dick Feynman (a hero of mine) could have said it best:</p>
<p><a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=DGiw7rxQLwwC&amp;pg=PA100&amp;lpg=PA100&amp;dq=any+organization+feynman+fence+sitter&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=vBAcyxcpyX&amp;sig=r24g348SwwZ8-HoowskjPiFrscI&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=xZ_QS5vCHYrStgOm45zFCQ&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ved=0CAYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false" target="_blank">&#8220;in any organization there ought to be the possibility of discussion&#8230; fence sitting is an art, and it&#8217;s difficult, and it&#8217;s important to do, rather than to go headlong in one direction or the other. It&#8217;s just better to have action, isn&#8217;t it than to sit on the fence? Not if you&#8217;re not sure which way to go, it isn&#8217;t.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Everyone expected <a href="http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15108618&amp;source=login_payBarrier" target="_blank">the telegraph to kill newspapers</a> (you need to be a paid Economist subscriber to read that fantastic article), the TV to kill the radio, social media to kill traditional methods of marketing&#8230; but we all know that &#8220;sky is falling&#8221; nonsense is just about capturing attention to headlines, and the future will be a mish mash of everything.  Don&#8217;t panic&#8230;. just try to comprehend.  And if you still need a basic review of how to engage in social media, <a href="http://www.marketingtimes.com/2010/04/more-best-practices-for-your-hotel-in-social-media/" target="_blank">here is a fairly competent and quick article about how to do it well</a>.</p>
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<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">BUT THAT&#8217;S JUST CONSERVATIVE HESITATION, because the future is now&#8230;.</span></strong></p>
<p>That warning being said, here&#8217;s something that I call jaw dropping, and possibly a slight peak at the future of a semantic web (as they keep saying.  It&#8217;s the new &#8220;mobile is here! 2006, Mobile is here 2007, mobile is here.. maybe 2008, mobile is coming&#8230; 2009, MOBILE IS TOTALLY FREAKING HERE 2010!) -</p>
<p>SPEED MATTERS&#8230;. This is where the start of today&#8217;s post gets  somewhat scary.  Did you just finish a website re-design, or pump  endless cash for years into internet marketing branding and design?   Well&#8230; those flash laden pages that are pretty when they finally do  load are a drain on your Google ranking&#8230; and your SEO suffers the more  bulky or content laden your sites are.  <a href="http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2010/04/using-site-speed-in-web-search-ranking.html" target="_blank">GOOGLE  ANNOUNCES SPEED IS NOW TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN REGARDS TO INDEXING.</a> In fact, <a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/content/article/google_search_ranking_now_takes_site_speed_into_account/" target="_blank">Hotelmarketing.com  has a good suggestion</a>&#8230; if you use flash, you might want to take a  peak at your own speed&#8230;. and see where you stand.</p>
<p>Which leads us to Adtech SF, and some interesting tweets that I am commenting on in regards to the concept of the dying brand website.</p>
<p>Apparently the brand website is dead (or committed to an iron lung), and <a href="http://twitter.com/HMarketingHelp/status/12593787758" target="_blank">you don&#8217;t need it anymore</a>.</p>
<p>At a fairly important conference  about the advertising &amp; the internet, they basically said that a  brand&#8217;s website is dead.  They are  dealing with some fairly complex issues of sustainability for business  in online competition, coupled with the need to have accessibility to  how your brand exists online.  I am extrapolating off the conversation I heard, but it&#8217;s basically the following:</p>
<p>Basically, a website should be for a booking engine, and directions,  but anything else might not work, especially as google is starting to  improve rankings based off of load time and speed of website.  The idea  is that the way the internet is headed into a more communal area where  it is about niches of relevant interests, and it will be nearly  impossible to leverage a small brand website versus all the community  based chatter in regards to certain topics.  In addition to this, it isn&#8217;t in the best interest of ANY of these communities to lose the potential power of consumer dollars spent through their portal, so why should they happily direct people to you in the first place?  In this, your website is moot because everyone is forming their opinions in conversations with user  generated pictures, stories, etc.  The way search is changing, even  booking engines will exist within social platforms (IE Facebook), and  people will slowly stop visiting your site, and ultimately, no one will  be going to them all together.  Also&#8230; the SEO era is moving into a  &#8220;semantic&#8221; era where search engines will be reading user generated  photos and videos, whether they are tagged or not -</p>
<p>Meaning there is *your* contribution.. a couple expensive photos, an  expensive site &#8211; but the internet community members with keywords and  chatter alone will overwhelm any input you have.  You won&#8217;t be able to  compete with the niche communities that are actively owning *your* brand, vs making your site  relevant or even noticeable in return.  Therefore, your site will be less relevant, be pushed down overall, and even the anciengt codger who won&#8217;t give up the old fashioned way of booking through the hotel&#8217;s site &#8211; well &#8211; it&#8217;s going to be even harder to find.</p>
<p>Scary stuff.  And not that far  off.  It&#8217;s fairly interesting too, but&#8230;..</p>
<p>Time for me to retire. haha.</p>
<p>No &#8211; seriously.  Anyone have an island they could lend?</p>
<p>If those well researched and thoughtful representations of how things will be changing isn&#8217;t far enough in the future, let&#8217;s move a decade down the road&#8230; to 2012 (haha).  These sanguine and cogent predictions aren&#8217;t the typical crazy, wide eyed guru&#8217;s ramblings.  These are smart&#8230; and likely.  <a href="http://www.marketingtimes.com/2010/04/11-predictions-for-social-media-in-2012/" target="_blank">Marketing Times has 11 Predictions for social media in 2012</a>&#8230; and they might interest you.</p>
<p>It sure as hell interests me.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a quick and dirty post, something I seem to be a fan of. YELP IS INCREASING TRANSPARENCY They are discontinuing the sponsored business listing &#8220;favorite review&#8221; feature which confuses the most complex of knuckleheads&#8230;.. but they are also releasing their incredibly fault algorithm&#8217;s hold on hidden reviews. Instead of trying to *HELP* the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a quick and dirty post, something I seem to be a fan of.</p>
<p><a href="http://officialblog.yelp.com/2010/04/announcing-steps-to-avoid-confusion-increase-transparency.html"><br />
YELP IS INCREASING TRANSPARENCY</a></p>
<p>They are discontinuing the sponsored business listing &#8220;favorite review&#8221; feature which confuses the most complex of knuckleheads&#8230;.. but they are also releasing their incredibly fault algorithm&#8217;s hold on hidden reviews.  Instead of trying to *HELP* the user by engaging them with relevant, meaningful reviews, they are suspending the algorithm&#8217;s effort in<span id="more-1040"></span> hiding meaningless reviews.  AKA &#8211; a whole bunch of shill positive or ridiculous negative reviews are going to pop up and appear on profiles; the funniest part is that business owners asked for it.  Now people are going to be swamped and blindsided by a slur campaign or their old, mistaken reviews coming out of nowhere.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s interesting, in a lot of ways.  It raises a lot of questions.  One being:</p>
<p>Does this invalidate the contractual business agreement that yelp has with businesses?</p>
<p>I think what Yelp did was a smart move&#8230;. and if it didn&#8217;t save them from future semantic web issues, it will help usher in a simpler era where the USER has to be intelligent enough to engineer their own filtering process.  I will actively pray that people aren&#8217;t so stupid that they can&#8217;t tell the difference between a helpful, earnest review vs. a rant or missive that has more to do with a blind date than the establishment.</p>
<p>But in the end, the real shake up isn&#8217;t for end users&#8230;. it&#8217;s for businesses.  If you are a business that is a Yelp sponsor, you might want to ask what happens to your agreement, or sponsorship, once the changes take effect.  I am not saying it was world altering, but having random reviews pop up before your chosen favorite might be a big deal for businesses that are honest.</p>
<p>If you are a Yelp business, I would love to hear if this is a concern for you?</p>
<p>If you are just a hospitality person, I would love to hear your thoughts.  Basically, this is beyond the right move for yelp (like they might be reading my blog).  But this will cause some short term road bumps to sponsorship that could help to implode the young 2.0 company not prepared for the openness of the 3.0 semantic web that everyone keeps referencing.</p>
<p>This is a huge decision for Yelp, and certainly a long term one.</p>
<p>Whatever their internal reasoning, the short term effects will be very important to pay attention to.  If you don&#8217;t hear of this in the next couple days, Yelp very well might be getting to big to fail.  If their management is able to make responsible and far sighted decisions like this, there&#8217;s no reason it should.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: small;">I imagine this is one of the first mash ups of a live-twittered conference?  If not the first, one of the only ones because this was massively, overly, insanely, time-consuming.  I do think what came of it was worthwhile, and I hope this sort of serves as a testament to all we spoke about and considered during <a href="http://events.eyefortravel.com/social-media/" target="_blank">Eye for Travel SM SF 2010</a>.  First thing: I am not going to list contributor names here &#8211; I assume this is mostly for those who <span id="more-1028"></span>attended, and we know who we are.  However, Susan Black was going to compile a list of everyone involved in the conference for further networking, and think we might be able to do that here?  Please comment and leave your info for people to connect with&#8230;. twitter, buzz, and anything else you wish to share about the conference. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The below words are basically a mashup of every single tweet (processed &amp; filtered) from the #smtravel conference (blended with my commentary in the parentheses).   I arranged the information best I could, however *completely* subjective said arrangement is.  I hope it makes some form of sense &#8211; or at least you can potentially peer into the chasm that is my logic.  At the least I hope I didn&#8217;t misquote or misrepresent anyone.  Speaking of transparency &#8211; I left some fairly meaty and helpful implementation/action ideas at the end that were not necessarily even part of the conference&#8230; I figure if you can find them and actually read that far down, well.. you deserve them. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I will go out on a limb saying that 100% of the data is accurate, because I basically copy and pasted from the tweet stream.  I am sad to say the nature of making the &#8220;tweety casserole&#8221; of our conference helped it to lose much in the reference &amp; citations arena, but if you need to see the authority and professionalism of those involved, please refer to <a href="http://events.eyefortravel.com/social-media/speakers.asp" target="_blank">list of speakers at the conference</a>.  For those that don&#8217;t know me &#8211; I am a big skeptic, and vigilant about data and non skewed statistics, as well as generally skeptical about enthusiastic marketing. If anyone would like to challenge any of the information or data below, please do!  I am always up for conversation and learning&#8230;. and if incorrect data was given out at this conference I assume we would all like to know (this is highly unlikely)!  So let&#8217;s have at it &#8211;  <a href="http://events.eyefortravel.com/social-media/" target="_blank">Eye For Travel&#8217;s Social Media Conference #smtravel 2010</a>!  (Boy I hope this makes sense)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">My attempt at organizing the concepts throughout the conference:<br />
</span></p>
<ol>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media (general)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Facebook</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Geolocation / Mobile / Augmented Reality<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">ROI</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">User Generated Reviews / Content</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Takeaway / Important Thoughts<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Action / Implementation</span></li>
</ol>
<p>You will note a lot of information on Geolocation/Mobile &amp; User Generated Reviews/Content.  I think that&#8217;s because there is real data, opportunity, and engagement in those areas.  The other areas are more guesswork and hoping.  Twitter provides ROI, to be sure&#8230; but I think we should focus on what provides results, vs. what we like to think *may* work.  In that, I personally suggest you alot some of your Facebook time to understanding and interacting with Geolocation, as well as becoming more involved in the review sites.</p>
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<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="font-size: large;">I) Social Media</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats</span></span>:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">83% of adults use social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">70% of participants in Social Media are spectators (lurkers &#8211; we know you are out there eating our posts)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">18% of US online leisure travelers do not have a destination in mind when they start their trip planning</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">For every 1/2 sec improvement in landing page download speed, you can increase page views 1-3% (I know.. this is SEOweb design. Sue me)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">58% of travelers use Facebook monthly, 40% use YouTube, 32% to Wikipedia, but 1 in 4 don&#8217;t visit any social media sites (this is in tune with understanding traditional marketing vital, still important, and should be integrated and aware of SM plan)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Email marketing still important but not as effective as it used to be. (I don&#8217;t think I need a stat for that, but 1) it still seems to be effective for some people &amp; 2) it&#8217;s amazing how others simply won&#8217;t let it go when it is no longer effective. It used to be a cure all salve to some marketers)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consumers follow and fan brands on FB and Twitter to learn about discounts (32%). Learn about new products (19%)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">35 Million LinkedIn updates/week, 600 tweets per second, 5 billion pieces of facebook content a week</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">An angry customer can lose you more customers than a happy customer can bring you new ones</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social networking is the new &#8220;morning coffee&#8221; &#8211; 4 in 10 people wake up to their social circles</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">4 in 10 people recommend products on social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">eMarketer reports 81% of marketers say social media significantly extends their e-mail to new markets</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary/Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You can choose not to participate in social media conversation but&#8230;.. that is *probably* not a good thing.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Most social media /generated content is crap.  (This reminded me of a very relevant talk by Google CEO Schmidt, and the resulting piece <a href="http://ow.ly/1qqLb" target="_blank">The Cesspool We Call The Internet</a>)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is about relinquishing control</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media/user generated content is the new brochure, and you have no say in how that brochure is made or what it looks like (I like the sentiment but mildly disagree&#8230; I think you be accountable of everything in your control and offer a worthwhile product and the brochure will be to your liking).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Transparency is not for the faint of heart, and it may not work for everyone.  When people get an update, they want more on a regular basis.  (IMHO, It doesn&#8217;t just happen, you have to fight culture of secrecy that most business cultivates).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Top 5 trends in Web 2.0 &#8211; </span><span style="font-size: small;">1) Semantic Web 2) SMO (social media optimization) 3) SGO (social graph optimization) 4) Affinity Graph (feel free to elaborate on this one) 5) HyperLocal</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It is about the quality, not quantity, of followers. 500 committed followers is worth 10,000 non brand interested ones (what sort of followers do contests breed?)<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Soc Media is a communication TOOL &#8211; not a PLATFORM &#8211; &#8220;do you ask for ROI on your telephone?&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media is not a campaign, it&#8217;s a commitment.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">How do you measure the value of a relationship? Lifetime value = more than the sum of transactions.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s amplified word of mouth, right? It&#8217;s been happening for years. It&#8217;s about creating community again &#8211; SM just a new channel for old-fashioned business sense.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media let&#8217;s your customers do the talking for you.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media shares elements w/journalism: Who, what, where, why, how. Formula for getting the full story on a subject.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">World has moved form 6 degrees of separation to 2 thanks to social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Conversation about your brand will happen without you being aware or taking part&#8230;. you might as well listen.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Whoever earns trust, wins</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">SOCIAL MEDIA DOES NOT EQUAL DIGITAL MARKETING &#8211; Social Media is 2 way communication (interactivity, conversation, dynamic growth), marketing is one way communication (forced/push marketing, print, billboards)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Good social media is about the 4 E&#8217;s: Educate, Excite, Engage and Evangelize.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Monitor, Engage, Respond.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Have a clear plan &#8211; where do you fit and how can you add value to your guests and social media. But you have to be prepared to manage the conversation.  It&#8217;s not a campaign, it&#8217;s a commitment.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Bake social media DNA into everyone in the organization</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You wouldn&#8217;t put someone behind the front desk without training. Don&#8217;t put someone in social media without training</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Guest services should respond to social media just like email or phone calls.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Real time recovery is vital to hospitality&#8217;s use of &amp; engagement w/social media &#8211; the internet is fast and speed is key.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s not about you the brand, it&#8217;s about them &#8211; about being available &amp; listening</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Non participation is akin to ignoring customers &#8211; a lost opportunity to engage, learn and make amends.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social should live across departments like PR, cust svc, marketing, etc. It becomes &#8220;something everyone does&#8221; like email.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You can become pen pals with some of your customers thru social media. good way to build relationships, brand ambassadors (time consuming)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Using persona&#8217;s to identify your average customers is useful &#8211; but be real, be earnest, be transparent, and have fun.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Utilize effective management to maintain productivity, instead of limiting massively effective tools for business (social media being banned in the workplace)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media can be a very powerful recruiting tool</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Use analytics &amp; monitoring tools: Omniture, Cision, ReviewAnalyst, eBuzz, Revinate, Radian6</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media should be fun with the appropriate tone of conversation.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Manage Social Media both from corporate and property level &#8211; &#8220;Speak in the tone of the medium&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Blogs bring value to SEO efforts</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Best ideas are often driven from the bottom up. Always listen to your front line people!</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Experimentation is the key to social media success. Fail cheap, fail fast.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is not free. Someone has to own, monitor, track, analyze etc.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The Return is on customer engagement, and ROI may take some time.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="font-size: large;">II. Facebook</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">100 million people now using Facebook mobile app at least once a month (how many are exploring brand pages?).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">56% users check Facebook each day</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">48% of people talk about products on Facebook</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">5 billion posts of content from Facebook per week</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary/Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;Facebook will remain relevant because of its privacy controls&#8221; (- My rant: </span><span style="font-size: small;">I wholeheartedly disagree &#8211; twitter inherently allows the user to opt out of privacy, so the user is quite aware of what they are entering into.  Buzz is similar in this respect.  Conversely, Flickr VIGOROUSLY champions the right of privacy &amp; ownership, so does Tribe.net.  Facebook is constantly altering their architecture so as to potentially generate constant cash flow.  These attempts at creation of revenue wholly disregard the individual users&#8217; privacy &amp; bungles the process constantly, while adding layers to a flawed structure/network that is based off of non-meaningful geo-connections.  Connections, of course, should include *immediate* social circles, but the strongest connections are based off interest, not educational institution &#8211; which pits classmates across broad socioeconomic and political backgrounds into similar social circles.  The preceding line is precisely why Facebook *could* eventually fail. The sky is not falling, and the landscape is changing constantly&#8230; but until Facebook figures this out, their dominance is tenuous.  You cannot create a solid network based off of &#8220;loose interests&#8221;.  Topics/Subject matter drive content creation, and content creation drives social networks.  There can be no meaningful brand interaction in &#8220;loose interest&#8221; networks &#8211; there is limited opportunity to get the network effect started around brands if one user who likes you suggests your brand to a user completely foreign to it&#8217;s necessity or disinterested in it&#8217;s existence).<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">I voice constant concern about Facebook &#8211; is the conversation meaningful? Do they book?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Facebook pages for brands as a &#8220;fad&#8221; was brought up, many disagreed with the concept.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Instead of attempting to create a new social network, connect with an existing one:  FB connect picks up that slack &#8211; interactivity is at leisure of user. Facebook connect allows published content and comments on both your website and Facebook. Helps build engagement in both places.  Travelmuse received a 30% increase in membership from using Facebook Connect. One of the best ideas was this &#8211; &#8220;It&#8217;s easier to buy access to someone else&#8217;s audience than to try to build up your own in order to market to them&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Add a booking widget, customize the tabs and cross-integrate your Social Media channels (connect but do not auto-post &#8211; remain native)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Tag FB pages w/Omniture(Analytic) tags to help measure ROI</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;<a href="http://bit.ly/8YtjE7" target="_blank">5 Essential Apps for Your Business’s Facebook Page</a>&#8221; </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Competitors&#8217;  followers should be at the top of your list of who to find &amp; target</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The Facebook ads that work best to grow a fan base show the user their &#8220;friends&#8221; that are fans, and has a &#8220;Become A Fan button&#8221; on it.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">FB doesn&#8217;t always grab people not coming to your hotel, so it is often better used locally.  FB pages work GREAT for F&amp;B, spa (incremental revenue).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">FB apps can best be seen as complimenting a good FB marketing campaign instead of the center of it</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">(I just started realizing the mapped network of facebook pages creates a tighter community online if you connect &#8211; try to get as many local businesses to highlight your page, and vice versa.  Creates a stronger local presence overall.)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Create &#8220;status questions&#8221; (what are you doing today?) so you can check engagement and how often guests interact/check-in with you.<br />
</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>III) Twitter</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Michael Perhaes with MGM Grand said Twitter is 5x more effective than email for us, &amp; GM Grand&#8217;s Twitter customers have higher ADR than email customers (someone suggested this as savvy, but honestly I would imagine a savvy consumer to find a lower price?)</span></li>
<li>600 tweets  per second</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Commentary/Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If you&#8217;re going to make money, Twitter must become a transactional platform at some point</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter is the new flight attendant call button</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter drives revenue, no doubt about it.  Twitter = ROI, Facebook = idle brand chit chat.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Young kids don&#8217;t trust it, and think it&#8217;s for old people or fame seekers</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter is not a direct marketing platform</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Twitter can be used as an R&amp;D tool</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Uses &#8220;extended&#8221; shelf space by having multiple twitter accounts to represent brand :chef pages, nightclubs, hotel, spa, etc.  Multiple Twitter accounts for multiple audiences</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consider integration with API to expose what is tweeted about your brand (like highlighting reviews, it does suggest letting go of message)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Even if you do have a group of people working on social media, don&#8217;t forget to tweet (fb/blog) with personality &#8211; be a real human voice &amp; be real &#8211; but be transparent, be consistent,</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Separate conversation &#8211; promotions, customer service, etc should be separate Twitter accounts so as not to confuse (this is debatable depending on your brand)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">competitors&#8217;  followers should be at the top of your list</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>IV) Geolocation / Mobile<br />
</strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Google estimates 50% of web traffic to come thru mobile devices w/in 5 years (if that doesn&#8217;t blow your mind, re-read it slowly, twice).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">240 million people mobile browsers in 2010, surpassing PCs for first time</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">100 million people now using Facebook mobile app at least once a month</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">According to a recent comScore report, 30.8% of smartphone users accessed social networking sites via their mobile browser in January 2010, up 8.3 points from 22.5% one year ago.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Access to Facebook via mobile browser grew 112% in the past year, while Twitter experienced a 347% jump.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">1 in 3 mobile search queries have local intent</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Mobile Shopping to balloon to $119 Billion by 2015</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Morgans Hotels tagged NYC airport codes on Foursquare during recent blizzards, ran ads, &amp; generated some sales.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Are iPhone apps a &#8220;flavor of the month&#8221;? Or should you just develop a good mobile-optimized Web site?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Geolocation tools like Foursquare mark a significant shift in social-real time interaction &#8211; it&#8217;s valid, useful information<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">hyper local = search + social graph + mobile + your location</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Impressive: Morgans Hotel leverages themed twitter hashtags, 4Sq hotel checkins, Artist Generated Content and analytics tools</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Location-based marketing will be a trend. &#8220;It&#8217;s clearly good.&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Adding hotel rates to Google search results enhances relevancy of listing &#8211; mobile access &amp; booking to skyrocket.  One thing, however, is that rates in Google maps is customer friendly, but maybe not so great for suppliers (link to maps blog post here: http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/03/experiment-to-show-hotel-prices-on.html)</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Best Practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You got me.  I think, again, I defer to Del Ross from ICH &#8211; &#8220;Experimentation is the key to social media success. Fail cheap, fail fast.&#8221;  But frankly, FOCUS ON IT. I would be willing to bet my name that it&#8217;s worth limiting some Facebook time to interacting with Foursquare.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: large;">V) ROI:</span></span></strong></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">What we are after (and trying to define)! *or* &#8220;No clear, easy way to track back social media ROI&#8221; says panel, &#8220;An attribution model has yet to be developed.&#8221;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Forrester Research says it is a way to enhance relationships with customers, build brand, help hiring &amp; recruitment, engage in customer service, and helps to build employee morale.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Conversation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If social media goals are not clearly communicated, how do u know what &#8220;good&#8221; looks like?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If you aren&#8217;t paying attention to conversation about your brand, who is? A different ROI &#8211; Return on Ignorance</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Interesting perspective on generating demand vs conversion in social media. Examples: FB = demand, Yelp = conversion</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Will virtual cash become taxable? (It apparently already is, in some places.)</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is not free. Someone has to own, monitor, track, analyze etc. It is ROCS &#8211; a return on customer satisfaction in early stages</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Measurement involves many different goals, not just sales.  Overall revenue, room nights (Hilton&#8217;s ROI measurement) are just two of them.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Southwest measures SM ROI by: employee satisfaction; ratio of cust compliments to complaints; new signups; conversions.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">VI) User Generated Reviews / Content</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Stats:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Their data shows that people believe online strangers to friends and family in regards to reviews, user generated content. Expedia</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Travelers search 20 different sites when planning a trip</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">44% of online travelers trust other travelers before commercial advertising</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">32% of Yelp reviews are 5-stars. Only 15% are 1- or 2-stars</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">TripAdvisor has 32 million reviews and gets 16 new contributions every minute.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">TripAdvisor gives less weight to older reviews than newer in terms of ranking</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Content submitted to TripAdvisor at its start 10 years ago is still on the site. There are no plans to remove those.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Management response to critical reviews more important than review content according to Tripadvisor research</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">TripAdvisor says an average traveler reads about 30 reviews</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Only 4% of hotels respond to tripadvisor reviews</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">By being confident, taking ownership, &amp; being enthusiastic, authors have altered or taken bad reviews.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Immediacy of customer feedback on mobile posed to change how companies use social media</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Online Reviews allow satisfied customers play &#8220;ambassadors&#8221; of your business</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Negative reviews play an important role too, you can&#8217;t please 100% of the people 100% of the time</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">it&#8217;s better to join the conversation than not. Reviews can go from 3 to 5 stars because of this</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best Practices</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Be humble, be swift, be specific &#8211; How a hotel property responds to criticism says more about them than the criticism itself</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">By replying to reviews, you humanize the brand &#8211; it&#8217;s less of a place to complain &amp; more about commerce</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Every negative comment is an opportunity to turn around the relationship, and create a long term brand centric consumer.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Bad reviews are exciting to highlight, celebrate, and learn from. Great marketing opportunity. Your reaction is vital.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">responding is never a knee jerk reaction #smtravel they take a LOT of thought, editing attention.  Good impulse control &#8211; required quality for persons chosen to respond to customer comments on social media</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="font-size: large;">VII) Takeaway &amp; Important Thoughts</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Stats/&#8221;Subjective Facts&#8221; <img src='http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   :</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is about relinquishing control</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Google estimates 50% of web traffic to come through mobile devices w/in 5 years</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Investing money in search visibility reduces need to spend money elsewhere.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If anyone says they are a social media expert, they are lying to you.  We are all learning and failing constantly.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">For every 1/2 sec improvement in landing page download speed, you can increase page views 1-3% (content heavy, uber-marketed sites are going bye bye)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">User Generated Content (UGC) is the 21st century&#8217;s word of mouth, and your new brochure &#8211; and you&#8217;re not the one writing it.  your customers are your new copywriters (Jennifer Davies, Expedia)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Virgin will soon have 3 FTE people handling SM. Hilton has 1. Southwest has 6.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The new big three in travel = Brazil, China, and India. New travel up 50% in recent years.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">People under 30 use email only to talk to you if you are over 30, or to talk to brands/companies (suggests the data&#8230; there are exceptions to these facts)<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media matters, but does not replace traditional channels. One in four travelers are not on social networks</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">People want to connect, people want to share: this is what drives social media growth</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Commentary:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Ignoring social media today is like ignoring Google in 1999.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Customers no longer search for news &amp; deals &#8212; they want the deals to find them</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s a conversation, not a broadcast. Be authentic, honest, transparent.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Think about shaping conversation, not controlling it</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">When social media relationships become &#8220;real&#8221; they become private &amp; go offline</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social Media is most powerful when integrated directly with the product</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Work with your competitors to create a &#8220;trend&#8221; for media coverage</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social media is not a &#8220;nice to have&#8221; anymore. It now must be a part of an integrated marketing strategy (but it isn&#8217;t just marketing, and it isn&#8217;t just a strategy)</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s easier to buy access to someone else&#8217;s audience than to try to build up your own in order to market to them</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consumers want you to engage with them in social media, but only when and where they want to hear from you.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Not sure contests are meaningful so much as getting endless non brand centric people following you for free &#8220;stuff&#8221;. Free stuff followers are not as useful as brand followers.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;Social Media builds employee morale&#8221; was a concept that came up a couple times during the conference.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">You don&#8217;t market what you want to say. You market what your customers want to hear.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Best practices:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Social operates on a shoestring at most brands &#8211; requires empowerment, education and training to succeed</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Not all social media programs are the same.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">It&#8217;s important not to isolate social media for the organization; you need to immerse your business in it. It&#8217;s everyone&#8217;s job&#8230;. it shouldn&#8217;t be just one person.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Make conscious choice for structure &#8211; do not do the easy thing and lump it with PR or Marketing</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Use everything as an opportunity for learning &#8211; Don&#8217;t overreact to customer comments</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Flickr, YouTube good social media for hotels to use for customer engagement. Visual content very importnat for hotels (and has SEO value too)<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Leverage existing social networks and influencers &#8211; go to existing communities instead of wasting time and money building one (Facebook Connect, for example, expanding between brand site and &#8220;vibrant&#8221; community).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Consider a dedicated page on your website for social media &#8211; Hard Rock Hotel has one full page dedicated to all social media &amp; review sites.  To shatter industry benchmarks, it&#8217;s essential to bake your SM strategy into your site.  Consider your market &#8211; go to where they are and engage them. Morgans Hotels has whole website section dedicated to music</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Employees can take brand message, localize it, and put their personality behind it. &#8211; participation FUN for employees! Don&#8217;t just throw a bunch of rules at them.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The days of content heavy &amp; marketed website are changing &#8211; they go to review sites and then go to the hotel site for booking.  Consumers don&#8217;t trust pretty, over the top, content laden sites.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">By utilizing closed loop promotions you maintain parity with OTA’s.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">VIII) HHOTELCONSULT&#8217;S Action / Implementation</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">For FB: </span></span></p>
<ul>
<li>Add  booking widget, customize the tabs and cross-integrate your social media channels.</li>
<li>Add  analytics tracking wherever you can to gauge success in raw data form</li>
<li>virtual  gifts/money (First 10 to post get a comp glass of wine, and then after posts say the deal is the free glass has to be for a close friend&#8230; be tricky, have fun, get creative)</li>
<li>Leverage  Facebook Connect when possible.</li>
<li>allow  management to post changes, updates, pics</li>
<li>Birthday  related offer?</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For Twitter</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li>compartmentalize  social media campaign by having smaller departments reach out &#8211;  multiple twitter accounts across all hotels for different reasons &#8211; chef, F&amp;B, sales/banquets, spa (whichever works or would be viable)</li>
<li>add  analytics tracking</li>
<li>integrate/allow  management to post changes, updates, pics</li>
<li>Reached  out to influencers at smaller groups &#8211; 500-700% ROI from inviting  &#8220;influentials&#8221; to a tasting</li>
<li>Twestival?</li>
<li>Birthday  related offers?</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">For Geolocation:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Research about Gowalla, Twhrrl, others we can possibly interact with?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Create Foursquare Mayoral Advisory Board</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Foursquare deals/offers</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Flash mob or Swarm Badge opportunity?<br />
</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Website</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">local tweet map on site mashing up tweets with brand mentions, associated conversations<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">have one dedicated social media page per hotel</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If you offer discounts, info, events, etc online, make them &#8220;Facebookable&#8221; and &#8220;Twitterable&#8221;</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: medium;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Misc:</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Be creative &#8211; Morgan&#8217;s printed QR codes on cocktail napkins</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">showing OK Go on YouTube $100,000 spend to sponsor video &#8211; less than 3 weeks 10 million views on YouTube. Press exposure</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Fairmont launched dedicated Presidents Club forum on FlyerTalk in July &#8217;09. Now has 412 threads; page views &gt;200,000</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: medium;">Follow Up Questions (endless, frankly &#8211; and I WANT TO HEAR YOURS! What didn&#8217;t we talk about that you wanted to talk about?):</span></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">I would like to chat more about HOW, &amp; not WHAT: how to integrate API&#8217;s, how to interact w/mobile-geolocation, how to implement facebook connect, etc. Check out mobile hotel app &#8211; Smart Stay<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Contact morgans about themed hashtags &#8211; Morgans Hotels tagged NYC airport codes on Foursquare during recent blizzards, ran ads, &amp; generated some sales.<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Live streaming video &amp; webcam opportunities?<br />
</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Is creating a list of your hotel&#8217;s followers on twitter necessary?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">How do you use FB connect for one small hotel?</span></li>
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		<title>I promised I wouldn&#8217;t write about Yelp anymore&#8230; but they *are* getting sued again.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another Class Action Lawsuit for Yelp! Enjoy the TechCrunch article&#8230; and always, always, always enjoy the commentary.  I find it interesting if not hilarious.  If it isn&#8217;t hilarious enough for you, check out the comment section of this blog post, where it basically proves Facebook users are clueless (or 4chan had a blast acting like [...]]]></description>
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<p>Enjoy the TechCrunch article&#8230; and always, always, always enjoy the commentary.  I find it interesting if not hilarious.  If it isn&#8217;t hilarious enough for you, check out the <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_wants_to_be_your_one_true_login.php" target="_blank">comment section of this blog post,</a> where it basically proves Facebook users are clueless (or 4chan had a blast acting like a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan" target="_blank">mischievous army</a>, once again).</p>
<p>Yelp seems to be taking this situation seriously though; umm&#8230;.enough <a href="http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/lgl/1615920140.html" target="_blank">to post a Craigslist ad for legal counsel</a>.  I would imagine there are better ways to hire lawyers than CL, but hey, just says a lot about the management that got them into this mess.</p>
<p>But these cries of extortion&#8230; once again&#8230; are more about<span id="more-895"></span> bad management than out and out unethical behaviour.  There is no way these suits will be able to prove the &#8220;WE WILL DELETE A REVIEW FOR YOU&#8221; concept, because I don&#8217;t think it has ever happened; if it has, I doubt anyone has gotten a record of it as fact.  Someone would have proof by now&#8230; a recorded call, etc.  Admittedly, these guys at Yelp are from Paypal, and they know not to be sending privy or damaging info across email, etc&#8230;. but I still doubt something like that is going on.  It&#8217;s more likely confusion on the level of businesses not getting what is happening with the algorithm, as well as the dubious (but not out and out unethical) &#8220;move the best review to the top&#8221; program, that seems to confuse a lot of people.  This is more about business owner&#8217;s lack of understanding about social media, and Yelp&#8217;s apparent incapacity to clarify just how their algorithm works.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10168065-93.html" target="_blank">Using the algorithm as an excuse</a> is not a wise move &#8211; blaming the foundation of their business opens them up to scrutiny.  By blaming the process of your sorting model, there will be more curiosity as to how it works.  Until people can trust that algorithm without question, their entire model will be extremely unstable.  Regardless of proprietary, privileged information, it jeopardizes their ability to be viable and dealt with as ethical business people.  Of course, the bungled Google deal and whatever really happened there (it&#8217;s all speculation) might offer a small window into their world.  Theories abound that <a href="http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/yelp-spurns-google-or-it-other-way-around/2009-12-22" target="_blank">Yelp was lying to Google</a>, <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/21/who-walked-google-or-yelp/" target="_blank">leaking information</a>, and <a href="http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Search-Engines/Google-Yelp-Deal-Done-But-Who-Walked-is-a-Live-Debate-678694/" target="_blank">fabricating higher offers from unnamed suitors</a>.  Yelp walking on this deal doesn&#8217;t make as much sense as Google calling their bluff, but logic doesn&#8217;t always figure into business dealings.  All in all&#8230; Google knows how to negotiate, and they were &#8220;rattled&#8221; by Yelp&#8217;s lack of transparency&#8230;. seemingly a theme for Yelp.</p>
<p>All they need to do is be open about their algorithm, and it will bolster and gel their business model.  I am sure there would be growing pains with being that open, but it would pave the way to have a stronger, vetted business that actually has trust from other people.  Until then, their algorithm nonsense will be the blood in the water that keeps the sharks (lawyers &amp; lawsuits) coming back&#8230;</p>
<p>As the solution to their issues seem obvious, it starts to beg the question whether Yelp really has something to hide.  Without being conspiratorial, it isn&#8217;t that much of a logical leap that they are concerned about *something* &#8211; whether there are significant flaws in the algorithm, or they have work arounds that allow you to disregard specific aspects of it.  Frankly I don&#8217;t like conspiracy theories; people are typically not intelligent enough to orchestrate massive lies involving endless people that agree to keep secrets without being morally challenged.  Our government can&#8217;t, big businesses can&#8217;t&#8230;. why should a web 2.0 startup be able to get this far?  If moralistic heart strings being tugged isn&#8217;t enough, money talks&#8230; and one of the employees would have blown the whistle for their future book deal and fame, at this point.</p>
<p>However, if they ever get caught jockeying reviews under the guise of their algorithmic mistakes, Yelp will be *decimated*&#8230;. but I can&#8217;t imagine that ever happening.  What might happen is that serious flaws in the algorithm get noted, and short term it will seriously hurt them.  Depending on how they handle this fictional problem, it won&#8217;t likely be a Yelp killer.  However, watching Toyota deal with public fallout, it never ceases to amaze me how business&#8217; often choose to ignore history and good sense.  What&#8217;s more, Yelp is a leader in flipping the marketing model and giving consumers a voice, taking a business&#8217; ability to control damage with PR and spin.  Yelp is acting exactly like the companies that they are helping expose&#8230; you can&#8217;t be secretive, you can&#8217;t market your mistakes away&#8230;. if any business should understand this, it&#8217;s Yelp.  If you aren&#8217;t ethical, or don&#8217;t operate with the best of intentions&#8230; the public has ways of exposing that.  It&#8217;s humorous, and possibly ironic, that Yelp is caught in a trap of their own making.</p>
<p>I love seeing unethical people getting brought down, but I just don&#8217;t see this as mitigated behavior so much as foolish bungling, something I touched on before in <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/13/why-you-will-never-trust-yelp-ever-again/" target="_blank">this article</a>.</p>
<p>People who don&#8217;t understand what Yelp is offering endlessly cry about the review site&#8217;s shifty ways&#8230; but Yelp&#8217;s program for advertising isn&#8217;t that nebulous.  The $300, $500, $1000 plans get you &#8220;impressions&#8221;&#8230;. those lightly highlighted/colored ads at the top of searches on yelp.  You also get a &#8220;slideshow&#8221; style picture gallery which is pretty meaningless, and you get to pick your favorite review to automatically appear at the top.  It says, &#8220;this is the company&#8217;s favorite review&#8221; and it&#8217;s fairly obvious when people are sponsors.  Most of the worthwhile aspects of managing the business owners accounts on yelp have nothing to do with their advertising options, by the way.  It is a valuable tool and can help you listen, learn and grow&#8230;. but you don&#8217;t need to pay yelp for any real reason.  For most businesses I doubt it makes sense at all; I don&#8217;t get it for a flower shop or bakery, etc&#8230;. there is no return on investment, so those constant calls they must be getting are annoying, to be sure.  But I still don&#8217;t think there is some devious plot going on&#8230;. I have spoken to at least 5 different account managers in different markets who try to get me to advertise, and none have pulled any unethical behavior beyond being ENDLESSLY annoying.</p>
<p>I still prefer google adwords, but if you are already doing those it might not be a bad idea, depending on your business.  Think about it from a hotel&#8217;s perspective &#8211; If I choose to pay $1000 a month from our marketing budget (which has moved online from print media), that means I get something like 4800 impressions (aka a banner ad that a consumer may or may not see due to &#8220;banner blindness&#8221;&#8230; I mean, I don&#8217;t see those ads at all, frankly).  If our average daily rate is $500, that means I literally have to pluck one person for two nights out of the 4800 impressions to cover the cost of advertising with yelp.  It actually is sort of a slam dunk, in that sense.</p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t convince old school marketers who are scared of losing the message, and not controlling the brand, due to sites like this.  What&#8217;s more, Yelp is only successful in SF Bay and a couple other markets.. barely.  Boston, LA, Chicago, NY seem to be okay&#8230; but even social media savvy Portland and Seattle aren&#8217;t that strong a market at all.</p>
<p>Look at open table reviews vs. yelp reviews in other markets&#8230;. opentable reviews which are verified and confirmed from a reservation are much more common than yelp reviews outside of the SF market.  One of our fine dining restaurants in the Portland area has 2 reviews on yelp, and over 200 on open table.  That speaks volumes.</p>
<p>But in the end&#8230;. it&#8217;s all bad press, and it douses their equity every time this happens.  I can&#8217;t help but wonder why they allow this to continue unabated?</p>
<p>Social media is supposed to be about transparency and Yelp is failing at that&#8230;. massively.  Everyone thinks Yelp is some immutable, immovable behemoth, but people moved from Myspace to Facebook in less than a couple months.  Youtube is less than 5 years old, and Facebook is less than 3 1/2 years old..  Yelp needs to recognize that their high horse isn&#8217;t that high.  The basic upshot is that this is all very young.  I think it&#8217;s interesting tho&#8230; all of it&#8230; which is why I am rambling here to all of you.  This will all be sorted out within a couple years, I am sure.</p>
<p>Do you guys think this is more about confusion from the companies themselves, or do you really think yelp is committing some expertly maintained conspiracy?  What are your thoughts on the future of online reviewing?</p>
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		<title>Hospitality &amp; F&amp;B news &#8211; weekly round up re: social media, operations and more!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[An impressive LEED Platinum for a hotel, Napa&#8217;s Bardessono.  I would like to take the time to point out that the incredibly complex reuse project from the NPS and ECB/Fort Baker Retreat Group, Cavallo Point, was just awarded LEED Gold.  Being NPS land, historic buildings, and completely &#8220;green&#8221; presented an  interesting array of problems (aka [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An impressive <a href="http://www.hotelworldnetwork.com/overall-design/bardessono-hotel-receives-first-leed-platinum-award-calif-7310" target="_blank">LEED Platinum for a hotel, Napa&#8217;s Bardessono</a>.  I would like to take the time to point out that the incredibly complex reuse project from the NPS and ECB/Fort Baker Retreat Group, <a href="http://www.cavallopoint.com" target="_blank">Cavallo Point</a>, was just awarded LEED Gold.  Being NPS land, historic buildings, and completely &#8220;green&#8221; presented an  interesting array of problems (aka opportunities), and I am happy to say 2 years after opening it&#8217;s doors, it has finally received it&#8217;s status.  It is a shining light for the Bay Area, a stunning addition to the National Parks and GGNRA, <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/15/eco-build-leed-compliancy-ethics-in-development/" target="_blank">and a model for future development being ethical and about sustainability</a>.  I applaud <span id="more-876"></span>both these properties, especially knowing <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/03/30/its-not-a-movement-anymore-green-leed-is-just-the-way-we-do-business-now/" target="_blank">how complex the LEED process can be</a>!</p>
<p>Sign of the times &#8211; <a href="  http://www.hotelworldnetwork.com/north-americacaribbean/ritz-carlton-lake-las-vegas-will-close-doors-may-2" target="_blank">Ritz Lake Las Vegas to close 2nd May</a>.  The economy may be leveling off it&#8217;s slide, but foreclosures lurk everywhere.</p>
<p>Gulliver points out <a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2010/02/hotel_loyalty_programmes?Fsrc=glvrnwl" target="_blank">a fairly brilliant honors scheme hatched by Intercontinental Hotel Group</a> over <a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2009/11/hilton_miss" target="_blank">Hilton&#8217;s disastrous alteration of honor awards points</a>.</p>
<p>This is sort of scary, but nothing new to our industry:  <a href="http://www.hotelworldnetwork.com/new-hire/industry-needs-flexible-graduates" target="_blank">Hotel industry needs flexible graduates</a>.  &#8220;Skeleton staffs don’t bode well for hospitality students preparing to enter the market today. As if the long hours and weekends shifts in the hospitality industry weren’t unattractive enough, students entering the job world in today’s economy are forced to be more flexible than ever, often taking jobs outside of their geographical preference and much lower on the corporate ladder than they had hoped.&#8221;  Honestly &#8211; if I had known the hours I was going to work prior to starting my career in hospitality, I don&#8217;t know if I could have done it.  Of all the things I have dealt with in my life, the hours as manager at every property were dehumanizing and exacerbating.  Looking back, I don&#8217;t know how I did it for over a decade.  But that is what our industry is&#8230; high pressure, fast paced, grueling grinds, and the self delusion that it is as important as saving lives and that it will all be better tomorrow &#8211; oh, and that &#8220;lateral promotion&#8221; you took to get out of the department you are currently pigeonholed in&#8230; was totally worth it. (a little cynical humor, of course &#8211; not at all from my career.  Riiiiiiiiiiight).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hotelsphere.co.uk/blog/archives/126-If-the-phone-rings,-you-answer-it-what-about-email.html" target="_blank">Why do hotels have so much trouble answering emails?</a> This is an epic, well timed, post.  It&#8217;s a HUGE problem, and not enough companies have corporate policies.  It becomes a disaster for communication if people think they can reach you, but have zero real access to you.  It makes our industry look bad, and it has to stop.  On the up side&#8230;. if you make it a priority to reply to emails, and it becomes everyone&#8217;s priority, maybe they will slow down with better communication.  More phone calls, less emails (including those horrible passive ones hiding the real question of &#8220;why haven&#8217;t you answered my emails?) &#8211; but that might just be wishful thinking.</p>
<p>Interesting and thoughtful piece on being <a href="http://www.hotelsmag.com/blog/Something_To_Chew_On/30709-Caution_Successful_Restaurants.php?nid=3457&amp;source=title&amp;rid=" target="_blank">a cautious, calculating restaurateur &amp; entrepreneur</a> in these times.  Fact is, it pays off big in a lot of situations.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hotelsmag.com/article/449106-UK_Hiltons_To_Convert_F_B_Areas_Into_Space_For_Business.php" target="_blank">Hotels converting F&amp;B space into meeting space.</a> A lot of hotels are looking for revenue, and this was an actual conversation we had with a client in the last couple weeks&#8230;. nice to see the article agreeing with us.  Lounges and comfy spots don&#8217;t generate revenue &#8211; but meeting space does.</p>
<p>Here are some interesting thoughts on <a href="http://eon.businesswire.com/portal/site/eon/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&amp;newsId=20100202007287&amp;newsLang=en" target="_blank">Luxury Lifestyle and Travel Trends for 2010</a></p>
<p>Is Social Media the next Search Engine?  Some people think it is, just as we find out <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/02/14/BUU51C0AMN.DTL" target="_blank">Facebook directs more online users than Google</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.openforum.com/idea-hub/topics/marketing/article/why-the-buzz-about-augmented-reality-apps-might-actually-matter-for-your-small-business-rohit" target="_blank">Augmented Reality is buzzed about</a> for a reason&#8230; and not just because it is PHENOMENALLY AWESOME.  But it may actually create business, even for small businesses.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marketingtimes.com/2010/02/geolocation-the-future-of-hotel-marketing/" target="_blank">Is geolocating the future of hotel marketing</a>?  I love that hyperbole, I really do&#8230; but let&#8217;s just leave it at &#8220;a really important, impacting development&#8221; before waving the white flag at all other types of marketing.  I actually think it is&#8230; for one, there&#8217;s <a href=" http://foursquare.com/zagat" target="_blank">FourSquare</a>.  But I don&#8217;t like getting *too* carried away. =)</p>
<p>Foursquare does have some strategic growth;  <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/social-media/7195694/Foursquare-signs-deal-with-Zagat.html" target="_blank">First Zagat</a>, <a href="http://www.hotelsmag.com/lexisnexis/7921223-Chicago_Tourism_Office_Partners_With_Foursquare.php?nid=3457&amp;source=title&amp;rid=14083566" target="_blank">then Chicago</a>.  Some pretty big stuff happening, and it makes me excited that with all this activity, and other industry people cloning their format in multiple ways, Foursquare seems aware and fluid enough with a solid enough business acumen, to withstand the turbulence in this crowded arena.  They seem smart, and I think you need to keep an eye on them.  If you haven&#8217;t gotten a google alert from them about someone &#8220;checking in&#8221; to your hotel or business, trust me&#8230; you will.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://ow.ly/14jG0" target="_blank">future of marketing in hotels</a>? This is a tech guy with idealistic notions of what hospitality *COULD* do &#8211; with money, foresight, more labor, and planning.  It&#8217;s a good idea, some luxury brands might try to get there with this as a gimmick, to start&#8230;.. but interesting and enthusiastic read nonetheless.  Beyond that, I liked the idea&#8230; and don&#8217;t mind plugging him.  He has got to be one of the only people out there that I know building Iphone (and I assume Android as well) apps that has even the most rudimentary understanding of the hotel business.  A lot of people are yapping about apps in our industry&#8230;. we might not be able to afford one, but for those that moved enough of your 2009 marketing budget online, and have a bit to spare&#8230;. check him out.</p>
<p>An interesting blog about the <a href="  http://www.socialightmediakenya.com/social-media-in-kenya-hotel-industry" target="_blank">development of social media in the Kenyan hotel industry</a>, and can possibly be extrapolated to other small inns and boutique properties that don&#8217;t have the monster marketing budget, but know there is an audience to reach.</p>
<p>The UK heats up <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/websites-list-of-dirtiest-hotels-provokes-anger-1885161.html" target="_blank">about online hotel reviews, looking for some sort of validation process for Tripadvisor</a>.  Is this another aspect of GPS &amp; Geolocation that could help curtail fraud and shill reviewing?  Whatever the case, I think the industry can handle itself&#8230;. it&#8217;s in their best interests.  Getting the government involved to regulate seems a bit much.  The only winner when you start legal proceedings are the lawyers.  Very few other people actually win besides them.</p>
<p>Speaking of Tripadvisor&#8230; here are a couple <a href="http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/content/article/best_practices_for_a_top_ranking_on_tripadvisor/" target="_blank">best practices for a top ranking</a>.</p>
<p><a href=" http://www.marketingtimes.com/2010/02/social-media-platforms-as-customer-service-tools-for-your-hotel/" target="_blank">Social media as customer service for hotels</a>.  Thank you for not saying social media as a way &#8220;to sell&#8221; or &#8220;drive revenue&#8221;.  Social Media may have a valid ROI, but this is more about being a cost of operations than a revenue stream.  We can all drive revenue with it&#8230;. but it is simply more important to *ENGAGE*.  Because in the end, ignoring it will cost you.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an <a href=" http://www.hotelmarketing.com/index.php/article/hotel_social_media_perspective/" target="_blank">odd piece</a> &#8211; great thoughts&#8230; horrible grammar.  I didn&#8217;t understand this, so I include it to see if you have any thoughts?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it!  Just thoughts and links and interesting stuff!  A real post is coming soon, I promise!</p>
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		<title>TripAdvisor Ethics Watch &#8211; Pay to list phone and website?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The rest that is cut off (hey I am a hotel guy, not a HTML guy) says &#8220;($42/month), would you?&#8221;  You can take the survey yourself right here: TripAdvisor Survey for Owners. I will let the pic speak for itself.  I know it&#8217;s just a survey, but I assume some people might have a concern [...]]]></description>
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<p>The rest that is cut off (hey I am a hotel guy, not a HTML guy) says &#8220;<span style="font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica;">($42/month), would you?&#8221;  You can take the survey yourself right here: <a href="http://vovici.com/wsb.dll/s/5127g3f4a4?wsb24=74291&amp;wsb25=y" target="_blank">TripAdvisor Survey for Owners.</a></span></p>
<p>I will let the pic speak for itself.  I know it&#8217;s just a survey, but I  assume some<span id="more-814"></span> people might have a concern in regards to this?  How about:  mom and pops, small innkeepers, non branded or flagged properties that don&#8217;t have a mega-marketing budget to leverage every site, and I could go on.  I know it&#8217;s only $500, but it adds up&#8230;. and if they were to really go through with this I assume it would be irrevocably damaging to their long term credibility.  Even Yelp has tiptoed around ethics issues with business owners, review manipulation, etc &#8211; but haven&#8217;t done something this obvious.  Of course, the question is:  In their quest to monetize, will TripAdvisor risk their credibility to do so?</p>
<p>Any thoughts?  Is it that big a deal?  Would it create an unfair gap between &#8220;haves&#8221; and &#8220;have nots&#8221;, or is TripAdvisor supplying link and phone info moot, because guests will call the hotel directly anyway?</p>
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		<title>Well done Tripadvisor &#8211; the first step is admitting you have a problem.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again, I get carried away with a response to a blog post.  I am sure this counts as real business right? Newsweek's Budget Travel has a great article about TripAdvisor trying to deal with the long coming revelation that many of their users and reviews are not legitimate.  This is, frankly, a huge blow to the site, and should pose a happy problem in it's early adolescence as they deal with all the changes that come along with growing into adulthood.  Frankly, I am thrilled that this may provoke User Generated Content sites to seek the same verification model other sites have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, I got carried away with a response to a blog post, and decided to expound on it.  I am sure this counts as real business right?</p>
<p>Newsweek&#8217;s Budget Travel has a <a href="http://current.newsweek.com/budgettravel/2009/06/tripadvisor_tries_to_respond_t.html" target="_blank">great article about TripAdvisor</a> trying to deal with the long coming revelation that many of their users and reviews are not legitimate.  This is, frankly, a huge blow to the site, and should pose a happy problem in it&#8217;s early adolescence as they deal with all the changes that come along with growing into adulthood.  Frankly, I am thrilled that this may provoke User Generated Content sites to seek the same verification model other sites have.</p>
<p>At any rate, this is vital to all of us, and it recalls some of my previous post (which I seem to mention once or twice):</p>
<p>You know I am skeptical of social media, whether speaking of <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/27/facebook-for-hotels-what-are-we-trying-to-achieve-so-far-seems-to-be-nothing/" target="_blank">Facebook&#8217;s lack of meaningful interaction</a>, or <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/23/flickr-and-the-nebulous-tos/" target="_blank">Flickr&#8217;s nebulous TOS</a>.  In general, I have had major concerns since my <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/13/why-you-will-never-trust-yelp-ever-again/" target="_blank">yelp research project</a>, and resulting thoughts on <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/04/14/why-you-might-trust-yelp-again-social-media-ethics-and-the-future-of-yelp/" target="_blank">ethics in social media</a>. I had even mentioned in January that <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/01/09/yelp-lawsuit-settled/" target="_blank">Yelp should consider verification processes</a>.</p>
<p>One scotch fueled evening my jocular side protruded a wee bit and I became a prankster. To be honest it wasn&#8217;t to learn the lesson I did, rather just good fun.  I speak of the Ryan Air Twitter spoof of mine, which got <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/03/10/the-links-to-the-ryan-air-episode/" target="_blank">considerable attention in traditional media</a> (namely because Ryan Air claimed @ryanaironline was their account).  It  helped me realize that there is a grave concern for brands and trademarks, and both <span id="more-739"></span>the businesses &amp; social media sites should have a vested interest in a <a href="http://www.hrabaconsulting.com/blog/2009/03/06/lessons-from-ryan-air-online-as-cross-posted-from-my-personal-blog/" target="_blank">verification process of brands</a>.  There is a serious risk of hijacking and damaging people and businesses, with inauthentic people (or dim ones not realizing pranks and social media can go viral) damaging a brands reputation.</p>
<p>Social Media is young.  FB beat out myspace because it is better at replicating and verifying the real world (although it can&#8217;t actually do anything more meaningful than provide a wonderful marketing data gathering opportunity for FB, coupled with a nice phonebook)&#8230; but it was verifying that the person was the *reality* based person, which quickly attracted people to it.  If you aren&#8217;t relevant to any networks, or aren&#8217;t genuine&#8230; you quickly become invisible.</p>
<p>As user generated review sites follow a similar path, these things will stabilize.  It is very young, and still in the myspace period of fake profiles and people&#8230; but as <a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology/2009/06/12/twitter-verifying-celeb-tweets-115875-21435555/" target="_blank">twitter adds verification services</a> &amp; FB starts considering verification due to <a href="http://www.stoel.com/alerts/trademark_June2009.html" target="_blank">trademark infringement issues with it&#8217;s new URL program</a>: , it will be obvious for User Generated Content Sites to authenticate, across the board.  I am not sure if open ID and attaching accounts to mobile phones is the simplest way, but if something doesn&#8217;t happen quick the sites will implode through sacrificing the only thing that makes their business model feasible.  I am sure Tripadvisor has seen the start of accounts closing due to the breach in ethics.</p>
<p>We will wait until services like <a href="http://www.yelp.com" target="_blank">Yelp</a> and <a href="http://www.facebook.com" target="_blank">TripAdvisor</a> grow into the awareness of what they have created.  People sardonically jest &#8220;<a href="http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Serious_Business" target="_blank">the internet is serious business</a>&#8221; when it comes to this sort of stuff.  But it is.  It isn&#8217;t just 2.0.  It&#8217;s a massively powerful tool that completely reorients the consumer model, putting control into the hands of the people, and out of marketing and PR companies, possibly for the first time in capitalism&#8217;s history.  The message can no longer be managed, and PR doesn&#8217;t work the same way anymore.  You are only as strong as the advocates and endorsers that believe in your brand.  Ethics is paramount.</p>
<p>The only way for these sites to continue their validity is by echoing the sentiment of their own taglines: Tripadvisor&#8217;s &#8220;get the truth&#8230; and go&#8221;, or Yelp&#8217;s &#8220;real reviews, real people&#8221;.  If they commit to intelligently policing their own site by being completely transparent, authentic, accountable, and earnest, they should be able to emerge better than before..  They might need to take a huge dip in registered users, as well as delete a lot of existing content.  This open and honest method of dealing with this situation will undoubtedly sacrifice trust in the short term, but it is the only way for a social media site to maintain the trust that they leverage for business.</p>
<p>It will hurt&#8230; but this is an opportunity for them to re-organize into a leaner and more valid site than ever before.  Most people saw this coming.  Let&#8217;s hope it isn&#8217;t something they try to spin away or ignore&#8230; instead of doing what is right and being honest, while doing everything they can to curb the problem.</p>
<p>I admit concern about the idea of having to hire non-revenue generating staff to handle the massive clean up project, and the fact the money simply might not be there to handle it.  However, it is obvious they are quickly responding, like <a href="http://www.elliott.org/blog/does-tripadvisor-hotel-manipulation-scandal-render-the-site-completely-useless/" target="_blank">April Robb from Tripadvisor commenting</a> to Christopher Elliott. I do like the <a href="http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60982-d596760-Reviews-Hotel_Renew-Honolulu_Oahu_Hawaii.html" target="_blank">warnings they put on some hotels</a>, but it could be markedly arbitrary?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll have to see.</p>
<p>Not sure what age social media is at right now, but it is certainly hitting a painful growth spurt.</p>
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		<title>So which TripAdvisor reviews should you respond to?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Hraba</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The answer is simple. It is, unfortunately, all of them. You need to respond to every single review that goes up in regards to your property. You can&#8217;t reply to just one, because you will look defensive.   You can&#8217;t reply to negative ones only, because you will look more defensive and possibly just imbue a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: small;">The answer is simple. It is, unfortunately, all of them.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"> You need to respond to every single review that goes up in regards to your property.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"> You can&#8217;t reply to just one, because you will look defensive.   You can&#8217;t reply to negative ones only, because you will look more defensive and possibly just imbue a dower, negative image.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">So the only real answer is that you reply to all of them. Don&#8217;t think of them as some task, or problem.  The Trip Advisor ones are a fantastic opportunity to speak to *potential* guests. We are of course mitigating the experience with our less than pleased guests, but it is truly about creating a personality and existence online. For one, by existing online you create empathy for your business as an obvious human is reading and responding to the reviews, instead of it being a faceless brick and mortar business to hurl anger at. It also helps you to learn, grow, and change management or service. It is vital as a real time temperature gauge of your services and offerings, and if you look closely you can spot trends and react to them before they become bigger issues.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">But you are also speaking to the voyeurs reading the reviews, and searching for hotels in your specific area. Every word you say, and how you react, is to be scrutinized by future (potential) guests. It is an amazing way to speak about your property, to reinforce your brand, and to really get your hooks into guests.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The happy guest reviews are easiest, because you simply celebrate what they loved about the property&#8230; a pastry chef, the </span>Sommelier<span style="font-size: small;">, the spa director, the property dog&#8230; it is a great way to take people&#8217;s offhanded comment and help market what you offer, and help prospective guests get a better idea about all the value that they might be missing.  The negative guest reviews are great because you simply say &#8220;sorry&#8221; and then use it as a springboard to talk to potential guests about making sure they are clear about requests, needs, etc.  If the room was noisy, remind potential bookers that the cheapest rooms are near a road that trucks come by in the morning.  I have been able to sound professional, engaging, and breezy in responding to an unhappy guest, all the while really focusing writing the review for a prospective booker.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">There are other tricks you can use that I daren&#8217;t get into.  I can&#8217;t give you all my secrets.</span></p>
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